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duntez · #**131** ● 09-22-2022, 10:58 PM

Yeah he knows I snitch for tits!

Rfneimad · #**132** ● 09-22-2022, 11:11 PM

What a bunch of liars. Cant even imagine how much more shit they put to the western people heads.

You were in the military, do you get mad at captured enemy reports? No you just digest it and work with it, assume it's psyops until source is proven.

I am on my own side here, and lately I only really get mad at myself. If someone is acting in a manner that worries me, ie telling people to kill themselves downstairs...or calling people orcs or dills with hate in their voice. Then I just try to understand and guide them to neutral thinking so they can reach a better way of thinking on their own.

I held someone's hand as she died in 2020 and now I do whatever I can to spare people from going through the same. And I didn't kill her but I didn't exactly do everything I could to help the situation either.

duntez · #**133** ● 09-23-2022, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by Rfneimad ↗

You were in the military, do you get mad at captured enemy reports? No you just digest it and work with it, assume it's psyops until source is proven.

I am on my own side here, and lately I only really get mad at myself. If someone is acting in a manner that worries me, ie telling people to kill themselves downstairs...or calling people orcs or dills with hate in their voice. Then I just try to understand and guide them to neutral thinking so they can reach a better way of thinking on their own.

I held someone's hand as she died in 2020 and now I do whatever I can to spare people from going through the same. And I didn't kill her but I didn't exactly do everything I could to help the situation either.

I didn't consider ISW as an enemy to be honest, rather informational resource which I was told on many occasions here was credible and trustworthy. If they really want to be just an informational agency with neutral position, then they need to check their facts, before posting them. Because from now on i'll consider them as anti-Russia, pro western source of misinformation whose main goal here is to support western political view of this conflict even if this requires them to lie.

Rfneimad · #**134** ● 09-23-2022, 12:09 AM

Note: ISW does not receive any classified material from any source, uses only publicly available information, and draws extensively on Russian, Ukrainian, and Western reporting and social media as well as commercially available sa****tellite imagery and other geospatial data as the basis for these reports. References to all sources used are provided in the endnotes of each update.

Rfneimad · #**135** ● 09-23-2022, 12:09 AM

Rfneimad · #**136** ● 09-23-2022, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

I didn't consider ISW as an enemy to be honest, rather informational resource which I was told on many occasions here was credible and trustworthy. If they really want to be just an informational agency with neutral position, then they need to check their facts, before posting them. Because from now on i'll consider them as anti-Russia, pro western source of misinformation whose main goal here is to support western political view of this conflict even if this requires them to lie.

We have to accept that yes, both sides info is going to have some bias. Only an actual military source is going to be pure data, which is why Reisner is top choice. He will tell you when dills get fucked, like in Kherson recently.

Rfneimad · #**137** ● 09-23-2022, 12:12 AM

We are all just observers, we have no real right or need for this stuff.

Rfneimad · #**138** ● 09-23-2022, 12:13 AM

But look at the WWII propaganda and you will see we are kinda blessed with it being this good.

Rfneimad · #**139** ● 09-23-2022, 12:14 AM

And lets just focus on how to stop it. That's why I messaged Igor and Murz, I am frustrated and want to do something.

duntez · #**140** ● 09-23-2022, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by Rfneimad ↗

Note: ISW does not receive any classified material from any source, uses only publicly available information, and draws extensively on Russian, Ukrainian, and Western reporting and social media as well as commercially available sa****tellite imagery and other geospatial data as the basis for these reports. References to all sources used are provided in the endnotes of each update.

I know they had references ( you actually mentioned that), thats how I found those videos on TC.

But its weird to me that they let you do the job, check every single thing they said. How many people would do that? Those reference links are some sort of back up plan. Ok yes we just let 10000s people believe in it and got busted, but we had the links to TCs where every one of you could go and check themselves.
IDK how else to explain it lol
I do see how much work being done by those guys, I get it. The best thing they could do at least, is to wright at the end of every post or better at the beginning with big bold letters something like (we do not check the legitimacy of the statements we make as we rely on resources we do not trust or just rely on other resources)

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