[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by scorpion9 ↗

Now, an on-topic question to the larger audience. Does anyone know if the Dnepr river in Ukraine freezes over during winter.
If it does, it could expand the frontline quite a bit. I know the Black sea doesnt freeze, but im not sure about the Dnepr, especially now that the reservoir is empty and water levels are low.

I found this here:

"In winter the Dnipro freezes over, usually after a 20-day spell of subzero temperature. The average freezing and thawing dates for Kyiv are 17 December and 24 March; for Cherkasy, 23 December and 22 March; for Zaporizhia, 5 January and 9 March; for Kherson, 3 January and 3 March. The ice regime is not stable: sometimes the Dnipro freezes for short intervals, and sometimes it does not freeze at all. Ice jams and floods resulting from them are rare because the freezing moves southward and the thawing northward."

Curling snow drifts are magnified by the terrain around the 1,400 mile Dnieper River, flowing from Russia to the Black Sea in this image from the International Space Station on Feb. 9th, 2017. Photo from NASA

I imagine the dam draining has already had an impact on the fighting in the areas where there is no longer any water at all.

[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

[...]Dnipro freezes for short intervals, and sometimes it does not freeze at all.

Hmm, if it doesn't freeze "reliably" then I wonder how much use the frozen river might have.
The southern direction is the weakest link for ruzzians. It has almost no defenses. If Dnipro froze, then it could be a game-changer.

Maybe thats why the Ukrainians are pushing over the river already and keeping the beachheads on the other side.

[RaNer]

So guys what about that counter offensive? You spat some serious insults when I told you Russians are no joke.

Some of people I know went there to "Defend the west" got back in body bags. So sad, people aged 25-35, young people, should have stayed home and chill. There's nothing to defend against, Russians just took the regions where Nazis tortured their people and that's it . Whoever thought Russia wants to "conquer the world" was a nutjob then and is now.

btw. got around 2000e that people owe me because they thought n bet on same stupid thing that media tells them - summer counter offensive, spring one, winter one, 12 versions of Putin, shovels no weapons etc etc it was a comedy.

And now fucks don't want to pay up. But then again it's not so much communist from me to put people in debt but well loudmouths.

[RaNer]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

Russia:

Nearly 300,000 casualties during a war meant to last days or weeks

Consistently losing territory over 1.7 years

Overstretched manpower which will require a new round of mobilization soon, unsure if Putin can politically survive this

Has not been able to conduct large, meaningful attacks since July 2022 (Severodonetsk). Since then, only has Bakhmut to show for it, where an excess of 20,000 RU troops died, mostly Wagner

Has to call North Korea and Iran for help

RU aviation becoming more rare by the week

Constant internal sabotage of war efforts + Ukrainian military strikes within Russia itself

Isolated status in international politics and aid

"RUSSIA IS WINNING ON ALL FRONTS"

Man, Ukraine does not exist anymore, Ukrainians en masse come to Croatia for work and to somehow get citizenship. Few of my friends married Ukrainian girls. A lot of them work with me in same company.

I mean they exist as a territory but there's no future there. They are in debt for next 200 years, they are not in control of their country anymore it's basically sold out to countries that sponsor them (EU/USA). Morons. Like you must be really a moron to think some super-power that's over the ocean gives 2 shits about you and are doing things well just to be good Samaritans hahahaha.

They did them real good like Croats vs Serbs, now they pay the price of succumbing to low lust promises (they thought they will rip Russians, take territory, be rich, be in EU, NATO etc.).

Anglosaxons played them like a fools same as they did us. Only Russians, can't play them.

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by RaNer ↗

I mean they exist as a territory but there's no future there. They are in debt for next 200 years, they are not in control of their country anymore it's basically sold out to countries that sponsor them (EU/USA).

It will be rough for them coming out of this, but to say they basically don't exist anymore is a big stretch. An unreasonable baseless thing to say.

"Debt for 200 years" - that doesn't really mean anything. The US will likely be in debt forever, yet in the big picture we're doing fine, look at human history and make comparisons to how things were before. A lot of western countries are, don't let all the doom-and-gloom media sell you that we're doing poorly, that's a pessimistic, defeatist way to look at things IMO

[duntez]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

Russia:

Nearly 300,000 casualties during a war meant to last days or weeks

Consistently losing territory over 1.7 years

Overstretched manpower which will require a new round of mobilization soon, unsure if Putin can politically survive this

Has not been able to conduct large, meaningful attacks since July 2022 (Severodonetsk). Since then, only has Bakhmut to show for it, where an excess of 20,000 RU troops died, mostly Wagner

Has to call North Korea and Iran for help

RU aviation becoming more rare by the week

Constant internal sabotage of war efforts + Ukrainian military strikes within Russia itself

Isolated status in international politics and aid

"RUSSIA IS WINNING ON ALL FRONTS"

Well, it is fair to say that Russia cancel out UA great offensive and god knows how many UA servicemen died during this stupid act of their command and how many equipment was destroyed.
Also, I think ( not sure tho) Rus gained more land in 2023 than UA. With Bakhmut and some other chunks of land they took lately , so 1,7 years loosing the ground would be incorrect imo.

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

Oh he's mad now.

Funny how Drag informs us how to spell Ukrainian words, in English, but somehow can't read a lick of cyrillic How on earth are you Serbian (allegedly) and somehow didn't pick up any Russian?!

TBH I can’t understand Serbian…maybe 10-20% only. It’s like Serbian language is closer to Belorussian I think

[duntez]

Originally Posted by scorpion9 ↗

Hmm, if it doesn't freeze "reliably" then I wonder how much use the frozen river might have.
The southern direction is the weakest link for ruzzians. It has almost no defenses. If Dnipro froze, then it could be a game-changer.

Maybe thats why the Ukrainians are pushing over the river already and keeping the beachheads on the other side.

Arta would shred that ice in pieces anyway, I wouldn’t want to be on that ice when shells will start arriving, with full munition and vest ouch..

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

Well, it is fair to say that Russia cancel out UA great offensive

It's going slow for sure, but it seems to be still happening as new places previously in RU control are being taken back. I'm seeing similarities to Kherson offensive of last year, only far bigger. Far too early to call it and Ukraine still has a lot of powerful friends helping them with no real end in sight. Russia doesn't have that luxury, their economy is monolithic and not great especially after all this.

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

TBH I can’t understand Serbian…maybe 10-20% only. It’s like Serbian language is closer to Belorussian I think

Have you noticed Serbian sounds like an Italian may have snuck in there at some point in history?

[RaNer]

Yeah, there are 10-20% words that are let's say recognizable between south slavs and eastern slavs. Russians say tysyacha and Croats, Serbs etc. use "Tisuća". But then again we use "hiljada" quite often but that has Greek roots.