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Basically, it's been super triggering to me and getting at me in a bad way. I'll sum this up best I can. When I got out of the Marines, I found that I had an inadvertent prejudice/racism toward Muslims. I didn't/don't want to be racist, so I have consciously pushed that part down.

Then, this Israel shit happened. I watched a handful of the videos, and it wasn't good. For whatever reason, that stuff gave me those same feelings as if those Israelis were my friends again.

It instantly brought back my hatred for Muslims, and it's given me the worst anxiety I've had in a long time.

Not only do I want to negate the anxiety, but I also don't want to feel/look like a racist piece of crap on here because I most definitely would have done so. I don't know.. I know,it sounds stupid, but I'm not sure how the hell to fix this
I feel you.
So when I was younger, at 24 when I was young dumb and full of cum I married an Israeli. I am not Jewish so I was not really allowed to marry inside Israel, we went to Cyprus to get married, and even then the Israeli government doesn't really recognize the marriage for 5 years or something. Because I'm not Jewish.
It's not their fault...they've had a rough history.
So I was legitimately discriminated against in Israel for not being Jewish.

Secondly, I spent 7 months in a place called 'blue lagoon' on the Sinai peninsula. Egypt an Israel have had peace and tolerable relationships for a while. They are mostly Bedouins there, Muslims that like the tourist dollars. One day I walked in front of a guy praying accidentally, and we were friendly towards each other, but he launched me across the..room (it wasn't a room). The Koran says stuff about what you should and shouldn't do, and he was simply reacting as he knew god would want.
Third- I can become a Muslim right now by uttering a few sentences, much like Christianity, i can also become in Jewish though it's a bit more of a process...
I can't change my race, and at the end of the day we are one race, all descendants from a few sources.
I spent years studying Islam, because I never got a good understanding listening to others so I went to their book. Here are my findings.

Islam for the past 1400 years has ruled by the sword. Convert or die (or pay the jizzya with willing submission ((non Muslim tax)). The Koran says Muslims shall fight the unbelievers until everyone on earth believes in Allah. When they are in the minority they shall be meek and mild, patient and live their lives like normal citizens and doing jihad other ways (tongue, pen, procreation, financially supporting Muslims) until they have the majority and then they shall use
that majority to get power politically or by force. Lying to non Muslims to forward Islam is fine (takkiyah).
The word 'islamaphobia' was created during the homophobia times by Hamas as a form of propaganda because they saw an opportunity and weakness in the west and could use this as a tool to help westerners submit essentially. It worked well.

Islam is a political ideology. Most Muslims don't even speak Arabic and don't read the Koran. They are indoctrinated from a young age like why most Americans are Christians. It's not their fault, but this religion is bad news. The fact they believe the Koran to be perfect, and the actual word of God written down by Mohammed is a big problem as you can't change the perfect word of God. Even to question god is blasphemy. So this will never change. It can't.

Now ISIS would justify all their murders with Koran verses, and they killed people as per the Koran. (Gays get thrown from rooftops, non believers get their heads cut off, and that Jordanian Muslim that was burned) They are killing people exactly as prescribed by their Koran.

'When you meet the unbelievers cut at their throats' chapter 9 verse 5 (also called the sword verse', which can not be aggregated by other verses ((cancelled out.... If one verse is contradictory of another verse in the koran you must use the latest verse)).

Whilst we want to be tolerant people and live together in peace unfortunately when someone wants to kill you, another tactic is necessary.

What we saw was all in the Koran, they are allowed to take female captives as sex slaves. They love that one.

Everything you hear is propaganda from Islam. Muslims themselves are not inherently evil, though they are subject to their environment like everyone else and we can't change that. Maybe in a long time through education they will get better but they are still ruled by Islam and risk death being open about leaving Islam.

Jews are born of the mother, Muslims of the father. So they breed Muslims fast.
Becoming a Muslim takes a minute, becoming a Jew takes years.

Islam is a horrible thing and there is no easy answer but we can't keep allowing this crap, they use our ignorance of Islam as a tool, and our empathy as a weakness. It's fucked up ...

Now we must support those who value the same morals and values we do. It's not about race, it's about preserving mankind.
Islam spread rapidly until the Spanish decided they'd have to do something about it and here we are today.

You hate Islam and what it stands for, not all Muslim people. Good people do good things and bad people do bad things but only religion makes good people do bad things.
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread VI

AR10 for me & 7.62 all the way.

5.56 is ok but if you want stopping power with a single shot in the field then 7.62 is the go to system IMO, rather than taking half a dozen shots with a 5.56 at a person who is in their kit as you will get ricochet from the items in this kit that has different things in it across the chest, namely mags & other items that make it hard to punch through with the lower caliber 5.56 & most wear some type of Body Armour that's hard to penetrate, But saying that, the 5.56 is good if your into spraying the field everywhere with shells hoping to hit something & even if you're lucky to hit something, that doesn't mean that they are out of the game as it has a better survival rate than the 7.62 Nato round as if you get hit with a 7.62 round, you can safely say that the bullet will go through the kit & seriously fuck up the target.

So IMO, if you want more accuracy & bang for your buck, take the 7.62 as I would rather hump something with a bit more stopping power than not.

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Orderling get back to cleaning my Rifles for me. I was top in the world at spec ops
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread VI

I assume it was a joke, since no sentient living thing would say something that stupid.
Not a joke at all. I just get sick and fucking tired of your constant shitting on people of Faith and conservatives.

Atheism is a religion just like all others, is every bit as domineering as any of the world’s historical religions, and has killed more people- at least from the 20th century on. The two most prominent popes of your beloved CoA are Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong, and you and your fellow evangelicals are working on raising another one.

The conventional religions of the world have done harm when men within them try to wield the power of Faith for their own enrichment. The Church of Atheism just skips a step and goes straight to saying that man is God, then A man is God, and then proceed to trying to put the whole world under his thumb.

No difference.
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Not a joke at all. I just get sick and fucking tired of your constant shitting on people of Faith and conservatives.

Atheism is a religion just like all others, is every bit as domineering as any of the world’s historical religions, and has killed more people- at least from the 20th century on. The two most prominent popes of your beloved CoA are Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong, and you and your fellow evangelicals are working on raising another one.

The conventional religions of the world have done harm when men within them try to wield the power of Faith for their own enrichment. The Church of Atheism just skips a step and goes straight to saying that man is God, then A man is God, and then proceed to trying to put the whole world under his thumb.

No difference.
You don’t understand what Atheism is. I think you mean authoritarianism maybe?
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You don’t understand what Atheism is. I think you mean authoritarianism maybe?
Agreed. Atheism is the outright rejection of a "church" and the concept of faith, I've seen theists refer to atheism as a church itself many times, it's fundamentally false and the very definition of a strawman argument.
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Agreed. Atheism is the outright rejection of a "church" and the concept of faith, I've seen theists refer to atheism as a church itself many times, it's fundamentally false and the very definition of a strawman argument.
If you reject the concept it may be a red herring, but it’s not a strawman- certainly not the “definition of a strawman”. You should read the definition of a strawman argument.

A religion is nothing more than making a state-like power structure out of a Faith. In the past, the church actually was the state. It wasn’t the Faith that committed the evils. It was the state that co-opted the Faith for their own power.

In the case of atheism, the deity becomes man himself, and then eventually one man. In the end, the power is state is the end goal, and those atheist states have been no less bloodthirsty than the ethereal god-based religions.
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n the case of atheism, the deity becomes man himself, and then eventually one man. In the end, the power is state is the end goal, and those atheist states have been no less bloodthirsty than the ethereal god-based religions.
Self-shredding any credibility you had up to this point.
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I am atheist and worship no man. Earth is my god and Mother Nature is my Jesus.
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