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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread V

A core tenet of Mearsheimer's belief is "offensive realism" in that "great powers" are justified in trying to control other countries within their immediate sphere of influence to guarantee their own security. In Mearsheimer's mind Russia is as justified in trying to dominate Ukraine as China is in trying to dominate Taiwan if they see them as a threat.

They are trying to dominate US influence on the neighboring countries. Just like US would do if it was Canada or Mexico.
It doesn’t mean it’s a nice thing to do by any means, Russia, China or US wouldn’t care when someone so arrogant enough to do business in their backyard.
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They are trying to dominate US influence on the neighboring countries. Just like US would do if it was Canada or Mexico.
It doesn’t mean it’s a nice thing to do by any means, Russia, China or US wouldn’t care when someone so arrogant enough to do business in their backyard.
In your own adorable, simple, NPC way, you missed the point that he was saying that Mearshimer subscribes to that theory as a geopolitical right.
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On Putin encouraging Russians to go on holiday to Crimea

"Just yesterday I was thinking what a moron one should be to go on holiday to Crimea now. Well, now the holiday will definitely be remembered when they go home through the front," one Russian quipped on Telegram--The Daily Beast.

Russian tour operators are pleading with vacationers to Crimea not to make decisions “based on emotions,” as Ukraine’s strike on the Crimea bridge on Monday played havoc on travel between the occupied Ukrainian peninsula and Russia--CNN
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread V

Playing all tough while proving that your logic is simple as fuck.
America can accept their sins my ass. Maybe regular people do, but not politicians that we are talking about. Just proves how simple you are to not understand this. Like wise - get bent.
That just shows simple your thinking is. Maybe you should try to understand US politics better if you’re going to insist on commenting on them. I mean, SingTFU is also an option, but we both know that’s not part of your script.

Just two presidents back, Obama opened his foreign relations strategy with a global apology tour.

The prevailing opinion in the US, both in political and civil circles, is that the 2nd Iraq invasion was a corrupt mistake that enabled the rise of ISIS.

Half of our public and politicians acknowledge that our current president manipulated Ukraine for personal gain, and the other half is just watching the channels that are trying to ignore it until that president can get through his second term.

Virtually our entire country realizes that our former president supported Ukraine while president but decided to flip-flop his rhetoric the second the other side seemed to support them more than anyone expected them to.

The vast majority of our country is painfully aware of our own dirty laundry. Don’t let your biased euro-centric/Russian-centric media’s mischaracterization of the US fool you.

…or just keep reading from your script. I know… thinking is so hard.
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apologies to mods if this isn't allowed but i have a request - a video from quite a while back now, a van full of ukranian soldiers gets shot up, pov from one of the soldiers inside. anyone remember this one and have a link?
I think I vaguely remember that... if you can provide a bit more info... such as a time frame of when it happened, I will keep an eye out for it as I am going back and retroactively adding hashtags. Do you know if it was posted here already? If not, you might find it by googling.
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread V

Here we are on the five hundredth-and-sixth ?? Day on the rusnya special three day Operation...
Bahkmut, Is still bahkmutting.

Prokepenko, Is returning to command azov.

Putin is still claiming smokers are a public health hazard,

And What in the fuck, Wagner.


Literally the only significant change politically at this point is that Wagner is off the field.
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread V

special three day Operation...
Three days was never officially said by Putin nor anybody in Russia. Some of you guys claim to have read it on the Russian telegrams, but anyway;

The closest to an actual real quote I could find was 2 days/48 hours, it is what the US expected if Russia used USA tactics and went full Vietnam/Iraq on Ukraine;

“ If Russia does opt for a full-scale attack, the invading force could take the capital Kyiv and topple President Volodymyr Zelensky in a matter of 48 hours, US officials said.

Such an attack would leave 25,000 to 50,000 civilians dead
(such casualty rates are in correspondence with historic ‘shock and awe’- type of invasions)

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-war...00-casualties/

The actual New York Times and Washington post articles which Times of Israel mentions are paywalled I believe. So while I understand that “3 days” is your favourite meme, it is basically something that Ukraine (fans) made up in order to cope with the ongoing destruction of that country.
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I understand that “3 days” is your favourite meme, it is basically something that Ukraine (fans) made up in order to cope with the ongoing destruction of that country.

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"Russian propagandists complain about global misinformation regarding Russia. They say they never threatened to take Kyiv in three days.

I've made a compilation of several things they did say about capturing Kyiv/Ukraine."
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread V

Three days was never officially said by Putin nor anybody in Russia. Some of you guys claim to have read it on the Russian telegrams, but anyway;

The closest to an actual real quote I could find was 2 days/48 hours, it is what the US expected if Russia used USA tactics and went full Vietnam/Iraq on Ukraine;

(such casualty rates are in correspondence with historic ‘shock and awe’- type of invasions)

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-war...00-casualties/

The actual New York Times and Washington post articles which Times of Israel mentions are paywalled I believe. So while I understand that “3 days” is your favourite meme, it is basically something that Ukraine (fans) made up in order to cope with the ongoing destruction of that country.
I currently am without my hard drive that has stored a ton of stuff on it, including a video that I have definitely posted on this forum some time ago in response to something just as stupid as what you wrote here.

It was a Russian soldier making a live stream from convoy of doom proclaiming they will take Kiev in couple of days. And there are tons of stuff like this.

Russia is a sore everything - loser and winner.

But to say nobody in Russia said something along those lines is just pure delusion and weapons grade denial.
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