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Wow the morons are out today, must be a full moon

Danieltmv probably believes that the US are developing drone-delivered mosquitos ready to infect Russians with Malaria and West Nile Fever. Yes that's what he's saying here, complete with slick how-can-you-deny-it graphics.
Buddy is trying to make gain of function research seem far fetched after we just lived through Covid lmao Come on big guy try harder.
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The giant face tattoo and being a bodyguard for an Israeli mobster really lends him total credibility
Does it matter what face he’s got and what’s his background when he is talking about this shit on TV or internet. That’s the main point of this and not where his wife came from, what tatto he has and other BS
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THE FAILING COUNTEROFFENSIVE AND THE PEACE THAT COULD HAVE BEEN

With each passing day, it’s becoming clear that the Ukrainian counteroffensive is failing to achieve any of its originally stated objectives. Recall: the Biden administration’s bet was that the counteroffensive would roll back Russian territorial gains, cut the land bridge to Crimea, and force Russia to the negotiating table. That is almost certainly not going to happen. On the contrary, a stalemate is more likely, or even that Russia will take more territory and win the war, as Mearsheimer has predicted.

What are Biden’s options now? Either escalate or admit defeat. In preparation for NATO’s Vilnius Summit, Blinken has been floating a proposal to give “Israel status” to Ukraine. This means multi-year security guarantees including weapons, ammunition and money that would continue even if Biden loses the next election.

This is not what the American people signed up for. Many Americans supported the $100+ billion in appropriations for Ukraine believing it was a one-time deal to reverse Russian territorial gains. If they had been told that it was the basis for an annual appropriation in a new Forever War, they would have preferred an alternative, especially if they had known that one was available.

THE PEACE THAT COULD HAVE BEEN

New evidence is emerging that a peace deal was achievable at the beginning of the war. At a recent meeting with the African delegation, Putin showed the draft of an outline or preliminary agreement signed by the Ukrainian delegation at Istanbul in April 2022. It provided that Russia would pull back to pre-war lines if Ukraine would agree not to join NATO (but Ukraine could receive security guarantees from the West).

This document has not been publicly released yet, but no one seriously contests that it exists. The only dispute is over what happened subsequently; Ukraine (via reporting in Reuters) contends the deal fell apart. However, the availability of a deal based on Ukrainian Neutrality is consistent with previous comments from Naftali Bennett, who said a deal was attainable but rejected by the West.

Why would the West do this? Ukrainska Pravda (UP), a pro-Ukraine publication, reported in May 2022:

“As soon as the Ukrainian negotiators and Abramovich/Medinsky [the Russian negotiators], following the outcome of Istanbul, had agreed on the structure of a future possible agreement in general terms, UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson appeared in Kyiv almost without warning. "Johnson brought two simple messages to Kyiv. The first is that Putin is a war criminal; he should be pressured, not negotiated with. And the second is that even if Ukraine is ready to sign some agreements on guarantees with Putin, they are not. We can sign (an agreement) with you (Ukraine), but not with him. Anyway, he will screw everyone over", is how one of Zelenskyy's close associates summed up the essence of Johnson's visit.”
pravda.com.ua/eng/articles/2…

Johnson (who must have been speaking not just for himself but for the Western alliance) wanted to pressure Putin, not make peace, and promised new weapons systems if Ukraine would keep fighting.

At the time of UP’s article, Ukraine appeared to be doing well, so UP portrayed Zelensky’s decision to accept Johnson’s offer as a smart gamble. Now, in hindsight, it looks like a disaster.

AFGHANISTAN REDUX?

I know some of you may find it hard to believe that the realities on the ground are so at odds with the mainstream media's coverage. But it’s worth recalling that the American public was assured for two decades that we were winning in Afghanistan. All of that reporting was revealed as a pack of lies when the Afghan army that we were supposedly “standing up” collapsed within a matter of weeks. At that point, the media stopped reporting on Afghanistan, just like it had stopped reporting on Iraq, instead of holding anyone accountable.

Unfortunately, it looks like we're headed for a similar kind of outcome in Ukraine. The only question is when, and how long Biden will be able to perpetuate a proxy war of choice that could have easily been avoided.

https://twitter.com/davidsacks/statu...ubPyPKHTjKar5w

This might be a little addition to that.

“ Diana Panchenko, a popular Ukrainian journalist whose channel was shut down by Zelensky's decree, shares her thoughts. she had to flee Ukraine because of death threats and political persecution. her youtube channel get roughly 30 millions view monthly”


https://youtube.com/shorts/qYtoYdV014M?feature=share
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Hope ww3 comes soon tired of working like a slave everyday with no goal then we can wipe out the bad guys the Russian. They been invading other countries for centuries and gets away with it every time

Heck Poland used to be part of Russia same with other countries that got separated they attack other countries for security concerns lmao when they the invaders
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This might be a little addition to that.

“ Diana Panchenko, a popular Ukrainian journalist whose channel was shut down by Zelensky's decree, shares her thoughts. she had to flee Ukraine because of death threats and political persecution. her youtube channel get roughly 30 millions view monthly”


https://youtube.com/shorts/qYtoYdV014M?feature=share
Deja vu, a.k.a. repost, a.k.a asked and answered. NEXT.

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That was her movie about Donbas yeah. She is a patriot of Ukraine and she is Ukrainian. How is it a repost?


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Buddy is trying to make gain of function research seem far fetched after we just lived through Covid lmao Come on big guy try harder.
I wonder if the evil corrupt satanist Ukrainians can program a mosquito to only attack room temperature IQ's and below. Hope you got a good pair of running shoes and some repellent
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Does it matter what face he’s got and what’s his background when he is talking about this shit on TV or internet. That’s the main point of this and not where his wife came from, what tatto he has and other BS
Maybe if I get a face tattoo and say bad things about Ukraine you'll take me seriously?
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Maybe if I get a face tattoo and say bad things about Ukraine you'll take me seriously?
Russian news reporters or Putin don’t have face tattoo so you take them seriously? My point is every commercial will find its audience.
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