[OmniJackal]

Originally Posted by weee96 ↗

Sending drones to blow up mortally wounded soldiers who are not fighting anymore is pretty cowardly in my opinion.

YEP. Imagine needing 3 drones just to kill a critically wounded soldier who isn’t even armed and couldn’t lift their pud let alone a gun.

“Soldier” 1 - hey Cleetuski should we kill that dude with the guns?
“Soldier” 2 - am u tarded Delbertski??? no kill that guy with the blown off leg.

[Silky]

Originally Posted by weee96 ↗

Sending drones to blow up mortally wounded soldiers who are not fighting anymore is pretty cowardly in my opinion.

Other than the fact that it is a waste of money using 3 drones on 1 person, as 1 drone will make anyone combat ineffective, and 2 of those drones could be used to fly another day..

I mentioned this before..

If the Ukrainians let them live & the Russians get sent back to Russia without a hand, arm, or leg, or even a penis, the mothers would see the reality of what's going on in the war & be against the war.

Sending back dead bodies is apparently an honor because that mother received a letter that her son died heroically when in reality, the entire West watched her son die a painful death with 3 drones on this website and then it gets posted on 4chan and Reddit.

Sending back an amputee would change public opinion would it not? I don't know the slavic mentality.

[DudeFromOregon]

Originally Posted by Silky ↗

Other than the fact that it is a waste of money using 3 drones on 1 person, as 1 drone will make anyone combat ineffective, and 2 of those drones could be used to fly another day..

I mentioned this before..

If the Ukrainians let them live & the Russians get sent back to Russia without a hand, arm, or leg, or even a penis, the mothers would see the reality of what's going on in the war & be against the war.

Sending back dead bodies is apparently an honor because that mother received a letter that her son died heroically when in reality, the entire West watched her son die a painful death with 3 drones on this website and then it gets posted on 4chan and Reddit.

Sending back an amputee would change public opinion would it not? I don't know the slavic mentality.

The Russians just send their wounded back to fight

But I hear your point and it makes sense to me

[kellyhound]

Originally Posted by DudeFromOregon ↗

The Russians just send their wounded back to fight

But I hear your point and it makes sense to me

They're doing them a favour imo.
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2024/07...-always-timely
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2024/10...bled-in-combat

Plus bombing Civilian Hospitals and Schools isn't cowardly? Fuck em.

https://www.usip.org/publications/20...violating-them

[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by OmniJackal ↗

YEP. Imagine needing 3 drones just to kill a critically wounded soldier who isn’t even armed and couldn’t lift their pud let alone a gun.

“Soldier” 1 - hey Cleetuski should we kill that dude with the guns?
“Soldier” 2 - am u tarded Delbertski??? no kill that guy with the blown off leg.

The problem here is that drones aren't doctors. They don't have StarTrek style medical scanner that can tell you who is mortally wounded and who can recover and be sent back to frontlines. Many also pretend to be dead. Losing an arm or a leg is also not a mortal injury, as long as you get evacuated on time. Russians have no problems sending amputees back to the war. Yes, perhaps not as assault soldiers, but as support soldiers. They can still drive trucks, BMP's, work in logistics and so on. In the end, the drone operators have become professionals by now. If they see the need to go in for another strike, then they have their reasons.

But, in general, i agree that a disillusioned cripple that goes back to ruzzia does more to end the war than an empty coffin. Cripples can't be converted into Ladas, so, the family loses a Lada + gains medical bills instead.

[kellyhound]

Originally Posted by scorpion9 ↗

Cripples can't be converted into Ladas, so, the family loses a Lada + gains medical bills instead.

The one-time costs of compensating wounded and dead soldiers plus their families are very high, in no small part due to recent decrees that promise major payouts to incentivize volunteers.

A law passed before the war entitles the family of a soldier who has been killed to 3.3 million rubles as an insurance payment from private insurers, and an additional 5 million rubles from the state.

Wounded soldiers are entitled to 3 million rubles, as per a decree from the early days of the invasion of Ukraine.

President Vladimir Putin has announced a separate 5 million ruble payment to families (this combines the previously mentioned 3 million ruble payout for injury with an additional 2 million in case of death).

Every Russian oblast or province provides a separate payment of at least 1 million rubles, with some paying up to 3 million.

Combining all of the above, the cost of payouts to the family of a soldier killed in Ukraine would come to at least 14 million rubles at the time of writing, excluding several smaller, long-term payments.


A lot of them are ex convicts/prisoners or people with low income jobs.(minorities).

In russia, salaries can vary greatly, with the lowest average being just 26,200 rubles and the highest reaching 463,000 rubles.

So it's a win/win situation dead or wounded for those families if you ask me so most of them won't complain?

[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

The one-time costs of compensating wounded and dead soldiers plus their families are very high, in no small part due to recent decrees that promise major payouts to incentivize volunteers.

A law passed before the war entitles the family of a soldier who has been killed to 3.3 million rubles as an insurance payment from private insurers, and an additional 5 million rubles from the state.

Wounded soldiers are entitled to 3 million rubles, as per a decree from the early days of the invasion of Ukraine.

President Vladimir Putin has announced a separate 5 million ruble payment to families (this combines the previously mentioned 3 million ruble payout for injury with an additional 2 million in case of death).

Every Russian oblast or province provides a separate payment of at least 1 million rubles, with some paying up to 3 million.

Combining all of the above, the cost of payouts to the family of a soldier killed in Ukraine would come to at least 14 million rubles at the time of writing, excluding several smaller, long-term payments.


A lot of them are ex convicts/prisoners or people with low income jobs.(minorities).

In russia, salaries can vary greatly, with the lowest average being just 26,200 rubles and the highest reaching 463,000 rubles.

So it's a win/win situation dead or wounded for those families if you ask me so most of them won't complain?

Well, yeah, the money is roughly the same, but the difference is that if an empty coffin comes back, then the family can keep all the money, buy all the good stuff from the west and forget about their zombie who got blown up. If a cripple is sent back, then depending on the severity of the injuries, its quite likely that most of that money will be spent on dealing with the cripple. If someone's face and eyes are blown off then they will no longer be able to work, and whatever money they got as compensation more or less has to last a lifetime. A disfigured face or a legless zombie who shits in a bag is a constant reminder that shit happened. Those who come back disfigured are very likely to start drinking as well( and by drinking, i mean russian way of drinking ).

[kellyhound]

Declining population/working people will cause significant economic troubles also. https://jamestown.org/program/russia...than-expected/

Through open source information on the costs of health care and the state of the Russian medical system, alongside historical scholarship and medical publications, we examine the crushing economic damage of the war on Russia from the lens of military personnel. We conclude that the state is logistically, fiscally, and culturally unprepared for the tremendous burden of supporting veterans and their families, presenting serious questions about state capacity going forward.

Above all else, the Russian state has to financially support the families of fallen soldiers in perpetuity. Many of the wounded (to say nothing of the dead) will permanently be out of the workforce, and even those who return to it will require lifelong mental and physical health care. And the numbers of dead or wounded servicemembers will only worsen the negative demographic trends in Russia. These challenges will grow larger as the war continues and the bodies pile up.

Based on open source estimates from the governments of France and the United Kingdom as of May 2024, the Russians have likely taken around 400,000 casualties, with over 100,000 of those dead. Simple math shows that one-time payments would equate to 900 billion rubles for wounded personnel and at least 1.4 trillion for families of the dead, 2.3 trillion rubles total. This equates to 6 percent of the 2024 budget, a truly staggering amount that will continue to climb.

Unfortunately for the Kremlin, it will not get off the hook with one-time expenses, at least if it wants to provide an adequate level of medical care for veterans. If anything, caring for wounded troops will be more difficult now than in the past; after Afghanistan and Chechnya, care was cheaper than today as the scope of treatment was narrower and the cost of medical equipment, drugs, and labor was lower. Physically, Russia’s wounded are returning with complex, long-term injuries. Russia’s deputy minister of labor himself reported that the majority of disabled veterans have at least one amputation.

Mental wounds may be even more daunting to treat.

War is always stupid to begin with and leaves deep scars.
https://warontherocks.com/2024/07/wo...f-russias-war/

[Roosta]

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

U.S. companies that have continued to do business in russia have contributed more than $1 billion in tax revenue to Kremlin.

American firms in russia paid the country $1.2 billion in profit taxes in 2023, according to figures from campaign group B4Ukraine and the Kyiv School of Economics (KSE) Institute.

This tax contribution makes the U.S. the largest contributor of foreign profit taxes to russia, something a former top U.S. diplomat called "shameful."

Since russia invaded Ukraine on February 24, 2022, companies around the world left the country to voice their moral opposition to the conflict and to put economic pressure on russian President Vladimir Putin's regime.

However, many remained. Research from the Yale School of Management's Chief Executive Leadership Institute (CELI) estimates that 123 large U.S. companies continue doing business with russia, with various levels of involvement.

KSE Institute, which factors in mid-size and smaller firms, too, estimates that about 328 U.S. companies remain in russia.

According to the new research, the 10 companies that paid the most profit taxes to russia in 2023 were tobacco company Philip Morris International ($220 million), beverage corporation PepsiCo ($135 million), confectionary company Mars ($99 million), health and hygiene consumer goods firm Procter & Gamble ($67 million), confectionary company Mondelez ($62 million), investment bank Citigroup ($53 million), agricultural company Cargill ($50 million), pharmaceutical firm Johnson & Johnson ($42 million), independent soft-drink bottler Coca-Cola Hellenic ($34 million) and oilfield service company Weatherford ($32 million).

Philip Morris International (PMI) said it suspended planned investments and scaled down its manufacturing operations in russia when war broke out. But in February 2023, the company's CEO, Jacek Olzak, told the Financial Times that he was unwilling to sell the business on Kremlin terms because of the financial hit it would entail.

Mondelez has remained in russia, arguing that investors did not "morally care" whether companies continued to do business there.

That's not good !

[Roosta]

Originally Posted by weee96 ↗

Sending drones to blow up mortally wounded soldiers who are not fighting anymore is pretty cowardly in my opinion.

Maybe you should consider that these fuckers happily came to eradicate the Ukrainian people & culture from the pages of history any way that they can which includes, shelling schools, playgrounds, residential buildings, shopping malls, train stations & willfully carrying out acts of genocide in the process.
Make no mistake, these fuckers are not in Ukraine for a fucken tea party, they came to eradicate every last Ukrainian, women & children included.

"Fuck Em" this is WAR !

& as for sending them back in bits or dead, I don't think that the Ukrainians have the time to give a fuck, along with the fact that they have witnessed their people being slaughtered en mass, with acts of genocide, stealing & killing their children & killing the women & bombing residential buildings & power stations so that they freeze to death from the cold ect ect ect & you expect them to go easy on these fuckers, LOL, What the fuck do you think war is, or in this case, poo tins 3 day smo, you want them to be killed nicely & how is that achievable exactly.
The orcs are using Terror Tactics by bombing nonmilitary targets, so maybe the Ukrainians are adopting the same rules of engagement by droning combatants with multiple drone systems to create terror or fear into those troops with the difference being, their combatants whereas the people that the orcs are shelling & droning, living in residential complexes aren't combatants are they, either are the women & the children that they terrorize by doing these cowardly acts & you expect the average Ukrainian & military personnel to have compassion, yeah right. Maybe you should try & convince a Ukrainian who's lost everything to be lenient, who's had his whole village wiped out, flattened under poo tins scorched earth policy, who's whole culture, people & history are being eradicated under poo tins 3 day smo & you expect him or her to be lenient.

The saying, "You Reap what you Sow" comes to mind.