[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

You should read this about taxpayers money spending on countries/wars.
https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1197958571
It's not a give away or straight into anyones pockets. It's meant to boost own economy as the money is spend on military equipment/defence meaning more jobs in that industry plus other countries can now see what are the best weapons nowadays so more orders from other countries pour in now.

Also
https://insights.som.yale.edu/insigh...orting-ukraine

All the other cheap oneliners on social media to create a hatred against certain governments/people are just bs.


Also Why was the US so hesitant to join ww2?
Most Americans still believed the nation's interests were best served by staying out of foreign conflicts and focusing on problems at home, especially the devastating effects of the Great Depression.

You can replace the latter now with inflation and immigration.


The U.S. entry into the war helped to get the nation's economy back on its feet following the depression. Although just ten years earlier, jobs were very difficult to come by, there were now jobs for nearly everyone who wanted one.

After the war the Marshall Plan was meant to avoid russia to become the greatest contributor to rebuil europe and not all countries became dependent or occupied by russia plus rebuilding also meant Europeans buying american goods. UK, France and Germany got the biggest part of the Marshall Plan and since that day the Economic ties between the US and those European countries are tight.

Thats exactly my point. Before the US entered the second world war, it was not an economic and military leader. After the war, it was the most powerful country in the world in terms of military and economy. War time spending stimulates the economy, it creates jobs and boosts research. Trumps lies about US giving many times more cash to Ukraine is just that....lies. What US is giving Ukraine is military equipment that was already paid for long time ago and needs replacement anyways. Making military equipment is zero return investment...unless you can pawn it off to someone and get something in return. Thats what US is doing. Also, sending that stuff to Ukraine allows them to start restocking their own military with newly built and fully upgraded versions of everything. US is a clear benefactor of this war.

[William May]

The Ukrainians are killing a lot of old, toothless soldiers who look like they are being used as placeholders by the Russians. We have not seen any of the 12,000 Korean soldiers yet, and the news is reporting that Russia has built up a force of 50,000 troops to retake the Kursk area. I am wondering if the Ukrainians will have enough drone troops, tungsten shells, and HIMARS to decimate the Russian attackers. I hope they hold enough drones in reserve to go after the Russians right behind the lines. It would be awesome if they could target Russian mustering areas, and command posts, and attack them. The next battle could be Ukraine's toughest. And now with Trump getting ready to abandon them, this could be REALLY bad. I hope the Europeans come through for the Ukrainians.

[William May]

But perhaps the Ukrainians are not only prepared to defend Kursk, but to launch attacks and recover more territory, in areas that the Russians have stripped of troops to support their efforts in Kursk. That is a cheerful thought, at least.

[Roosta]

Originally Posted by William May ↗

The Ukrainians are killing a lot of old, toothless soldiers who look like they are being used as placeholders by the Russians. We have not seen any of the 12,000 Korean soldiers yet, and the news is reporting that Russia has built up a force of 50,000 troops to retake the Kursk area. I am wondering if the Ukrainians will have enough drone troops, tungsten shells, and HIMARS to decimate the Russian attackers. I hope they hold enough drones in reserve to go after the Russians right behind the lines. It would be awesome if they could target Russian mustering areas, and command posts, and attack them. The next battle could be Ukraine's toughest. And now with Trump getting ready to abandon them, this could be REALLY bad. I hope the Europeans come through for the Ukrainians.

IMO, I don't think that the rest of Europe will abandon them as there definitely next, that's if Poo Tin gets his way with Ukraine.

I also think that Trump won't really want to be associated with Poo Tin, after all, he's served his purpose, that's if he did indeed help with getting Trump elected & having that many sanctions against him, I think that it would be hard to lift them as it would show that Trumps a full on Orc sympathiser & that folks, isn't good for business & that's all Trump is, a deal maker, nothing more, never anything that he's worked on & bought in, nothing new, same old money orientated puppet that's a stroke away from becoming a dicktaker himself, such is his hunger for money & power.

Time will tell I guess but you just can't teach an old dog new tricks as long as his system of gathering money stays intact, he's fine, but as soon as someone challenges that, he goes beserk.
Furthermore, he has shown that he couldn't really give a fuck about anything except supporting his rich lister buddies who love to stroke his cock & lately the No 1 person to do that is Musk, as he defiantly wants something from Trump, ppl like that always have their own agenda & for Musk to publicly back Trump, he wouldn't be doing that for nothing & giving him over $200 Million Dollars for Trumps campaign, so expect that there working on something.

However, the cookie crumbles, abandoning Ukraine wont happen IMO, there's been to much investment & blood spilt just to step back, capitulate & everything to get back on track as it will only appease Poo Tin for a while, time to rebuild his army & keep pushing west into greater Europe.

Hey Poo Tin & his Bitches, "GO FUCK YOURSELVES" !

[Roosta]

I've noticed in the stats lately that there's been no orc helo's (helicopters / gunships) shot down recently nor any footage of them launching missiles ect, so it seems that they have stopped using them due to a shortage maybe & keeping the remainder to protect the capital & important in country assets & also the fact that they have learnt that it's cheaper to use drones to do the jobs.

[Roosta]

Recycle the old stuff to other countries & create jobs to build the new stuff is a win win, BUT the world is becoming more & more weaponised each day which will eventually come to a climatic point, a point of no return IMO where those weapons are so devastating that WHEN something goes wrong, it will be very bad indeed as guns are no longer the primary weapon, drones carrying explosives are & the way to counteract that is with bigger bombs, ect ect ect.

It's very hard for ppl to have those weapons just sitting idle, they always wana see what they can do for real, on the battlefield, in real life, not in a training situation environment, so someone starts some shit someplace just so they can swap out the old stuff & create an economy out of building new stuff, hence war is actually needed for progression !
Rather a sticky corner us humans have got ourselves into, a point of no return maybe !

[Rikbikboo]

The problem is the memories of ww2 are now 80 years in the past. The world for all intents and purposes has forgotten the true horror of war. We in the west have increasing reliance on our electronic weapons systems and superduper missile interceptors, and all the while the general public are gently being tricked into thinking they are safe and secure in their beds at night.

It wouldnt take much to disrupt the world food markets and cause world wide starvation, possibly causing the death of not just tens of millions but quite easily hundreds of millions.

Take the UK for example. A population of 70 million all of which rely on our supermarkets to keep us fed. Up until recently we were never told to keep and store three days worth of food and water in case of some national emergency. What emergency has the uk had in the last 80 years that needed food and water to be stored?. When covid struck it was a prime example, within a few days the supermarket shelves were empty. people were panic buying to the extent the silly bastards didnt panic buy food, no, they were more worried about what they were going to wipe their assholes on.

Its really interesting because when the shit does hit the fan just the simple act of getting a drop of clean water in our big cities is going to be a nightmare. Not one single country is ready for a full on war. not really. We can say we are but that false bravado comes from the knowledge , however flawed that our fantastic nuclear deterrent will keep us safe.

Now look at rocket man. he is supposed to have a million troops on the border with his neighbour alone. does the other side also have a million standing by to hold them back?. What happens if he decides to walk them into Seoul if he gets brave enough. He's already realised he can push the boat out as now that he has the bomb no one has the bollocks to touch him.

Trump is full of shit. The only way he will end this war in 24 hours is if he says Russia can have everything east of the river. of course Poo tin is willing to speak to him. He is willing because he knows he is very likely to get what he wants. Im sorry to say it. but the majority of the US citizens really dont have a clue what is going on outside of their own state let alone the country. The are too preoccupied listening to Trumps bullshit about keeping the mexicans out, building that fucking wall and pushing his racist keep all immigrants out narrative.

Most people in the US couldnt even tell you where what letter of the alphabet America begins with let alone where Ukraine is on the map. They hear Ukraine and simply say fuck Pootin lets bomb the shithole. Exactly like they did with Iraq and Afghanistan and any other country with a raghead in it. They have all been conditioned to think that the way to win any conflict is to go in and bomb the fuck out of it. Very intelligent.

So what are we expecting from Trump. The other side is already running around like headless chickens trying to Trump proof any work they have done because he likely going to undo any good work they previously did. Personally I think Trump won bacause one the public was sick of Biden and his total ineptitude during interviews. If he wasnt falling over he was forgetting who people were or what he was even talking. And this is meant to be the most powerful man on the planet. They seem to have chosen Trump over his migration chitter chatter yammering which is based on bigoted hate spewed out by an adjudicated rapist.

I have very low hopes of that man doing anything positive in the next five years apart form push the world closer still to all out war. In the long run a Decent culling of the world population would probably be the best thing, wipe 5 billion out and start afresh irradiate the northern hemisphere and everyone can move down south and pretend it didnt happen until the fallout starts causing shit loads of Lukemia . We are fucked if they do and we are fucked if they dont.

So suck it up buttercup hold your corner and start stockpiling your food and water. And prepare yourselves for when the neighbours are kicking your door down to kill you for what you've got stashed.

Fucking Trump Pootin jong Un Xi They dont give a fuck about anyone theyll all be chilling in their bunkers when us lot are screaming pass me the factor 5 million. And in a few years time when we are all starving and on the edge of death we will be remembering how nice live was when you used to sit at your desk in your comfy computer chair eating your junk food and wishing you had something to eat and a nice hot bath.. things of the past that youll probably die dreaming of but never seeing again.

Ironically itll be those very ragheads living in their single rooms by candlelight that will likely be the only ones left. Even the rich will end up dying in their multimillion dollar bunkers. either eunning out of food or desperately trying to fight off the hordes trying to break in by any means.

Im more interested in why my neighbour needs a heavy digger and is busy digging under his house under the false pretence of building an extension. me. ill just keep a fuck load of opiate painkillers ad eat the lot when it all kicks off. Im fucked if I am gonna spend days or weeks scrambling in shit to survive an extra day in all of the chaos. fuck that.

https://news.sky.com/video/ukrainian...a-war-13252916

What are they going to do. Rely on the drone pilots that are doing a great job currently, but as we know Pootin has virtually an endless supply of infantry especially now rocket man is involved. "Russia launched the largest drone attack on Ukraine ever last night".

The next few months will be telling.

https://news.sky.com/video/kremlin-d...trump-13252648

[Rikbikboo]

Hmm perhap we are not seeing helicoptors being shot down because Pootin is using missiles. I keep seeing news of heavy missile attacks on the news. plus winter is here so surely the tactic for the winter is yet again to try and freeze the Ukranians into surrender/submission or deal making. I know we seem to have the thought that trump isnt going to stop support for Ukraine but.

We already seem to have Trump being called out for lying about having had a phone conversation with Pootin the russians saying that it is all fantasy and no conversation took place. He hasnt even gotten into office and hes already lying. Trump the walking talking bullshitter man..

My money is on a peace agreement Ukraine ceeding land to Russia and Russia stating a victory over the Nazis and the west.

Then Pootin Kim Jong Un Xi and the arabs in Iran all sitting down for chats about what fuckery to do next. Pootin sits quitely rubbing his hands in victory planning his next move, then China will go for a full attack on Taiwan whilst Kim goes into South Korea Iran shits on Israel.

And trumps sits back with a Cigar and says fuck it not my problem. The USA aint bailing you fuckers out no more.

[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by Rikbikboo ↗

Now look at rocket man. he is supposed to have a million troops on the border with his neighbour alone. does the other side also have a million standing by to hold them back?. What happens if he decides to walk them into Seoul if he gets brave enough. He's already realized he can push the boat out as now that he has the bomb no one has the bollocks to touch him.

Rocketman isnt attacking South Korea because his soldiers wouldn't want to attack South Korea, they would want to live in it. He has to spend a lot of resources simply for keeping his people and soldiers inside the country, keeping them from running away. In fact, he could cause a humanitarian disaster without firing a single shot, simply by allowing its population to leave. Imagine millions of people rushing across the border. You cant shoot them because they are unarmed civilians. You cant arrest them either because there are millions of them. I think i saw a documentary where South Koreans were discussing reunification of both Korea's and they concluded that it would be quite a disaster for South Korea.

Originally Posted by Rikbikboo ↗

Personally I think Trump won because one the public was sick of Biden and his total ineptitude during interviews.

Trump won because Americans are simple people who like simple phrases and keywords. Trump gave them exactly that. One word or one sentence mantras, repeated for years. His speeches were as simple as it could get. He rarely mentioned politics, laws, bills, tax or economic reforms. Whenever he was asked about his answer to "problem x", his reply was always "oh my solution is going to be the best solution in the world. Its going to be magnificent. Its a solution that the world has never seen before". That kinds of "null" answers, void of any thought are exactly what the generic population wants.

Biden was old and getting senile, but still, he listened to his advisors and made good policies. Economy under him recovered from recession and is strong. In a real democracy, neither of these old men would have bothered to run because they wouldn't have had any chance of being elected.

Originally Posted by Rikbikboo ↗

In the long run a Decent culling of the world population would probably be the best thing, wipe 5 billion out and start afresh irradiate the northern hemisphere and everyone can move down south and pretend it didnt happen until the fallout starts causing shit loads of Lukemia

Well, most of the "problematic" regions of the word in regards to population are in asia, africa and south america. The western world doesn't need population culling because populations here are in decline anyways. Birth rates are dropping and in the long run, overpopulation wont be a problem in the west.

[Faust]

I am not going to fact check all your earlier predictions, but to blame the entire potential impending demise of Ukraine on Trump is ignoring everything you and your friends claimed in the past 2.5 years.

Ukraine will kick the Russians out as soon as the got more Bayraktars!

Okay maybe not Bayraktars but the Javelin is the best, it has a +95% accuracy and will surely change the tide of battle just you wait

No forget that, the western tanks are the best in the world, once they get the leopard then it’s over for Russia!

Maybe not the leopard but the challenger 2 is the best tank ever developed now it is going to finally happen we are going to see a free crimea!

Okay forget about challenger 2, once the Abrams gets onto the battlefield it will be the end of Russia for sure.

Okay maybe not the Abrams they sent the special olympics version of the Abrams but if they sent the real one then Ukraine would surely win!

And so forth and so on

And then at the end of all this, to now go and claim that Trump is the reason Ukraine lost?

How can Ukraine lose anything? Russia is losing 1.500 soldiers every day, and Ukraine is only losing very little, also Ukraine now has more tanks than at the start of the conflict. Also the Russian economy is about to collapse

The only thing I see collapsing is your narrative. But don’t blame everything on trump is my point