[jkesil]

Originally Posted by Wailode ↗

You dont have to be 1B to be superpower. Its more about collective symbol - identity, holding nuclear weapons and have strong politics, normal economy and sphere of influence - business. West is atomized, no clear identity, chaos. That is big difference

West of Russia and her many bigger cities are to this day one of the best places to live. And on eastern side you have Vladivostok with is something like "russian south korea" Its not crowded shit like India or Mexico. Russia is rich on resources. They rly dont need more people to be happy. They know how to defend themselves and how to do business. I think their future is more bright then most of the western states.

Cope.

I’ll sit back and watch like I watched hundreds of thousands of russkies last year fleeing „future more bright than most of western states”.

Cope hard. I like it.

[Wailode]

Originally Posted by jkesil ↗

Cope.

Cope hard. I like it.

You are the one who is here on copium. Look at history. Do you see anyone who broke russia ? Look at napoleon or hitler. Just watch.

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by Wailode ↗

They were not stopped, they have methodic war, with most of the people here dont even understand.

I really try to understand your perspective sometimes Wailode and it just doesn't make any sense logically.

Russia's headlong assault into northern Ukraine was definitely stopped. Cold. Remember that massive convoy north of Kyiv that hardly moved for days and all the videos coming out of them getting bombed to all hell. That company + of tanks just sitting on the highway through Brovary that got systematically picked off while they just stood still. They all took very heavy casualties and then ran back up to Belarus and Russia. You are not doing yourself a favor by adopting alternative fantasies - this is not how war is conducted - a headlong rush into the capital that proved to fail badly, but this was somehow "systematic" and on purpose??! No, dude. They fucked up and retreated. And then Kharkiv (Russians spread too thin and the Ukrainians noticed, took big advantage of it) and Kherson (poor geographic situation which made it easy for long range precision strikes to bleed Russian logistics dry making their presence untenable as Ukraine attacked from the north).

These are repeated mistakes that honestly I'm shocked that the Russians keep making. This is not Putin's 4D quantum chess game Wailode, they are really fucking this up and it's obvious. Historians, Professors, Officers and NCOs from everywhere will be studying this for many, many years. "Chapter 1, how to fuck up large scale attack on a neighboring country". I did not think this would be the case but here we are.... if you can't accept the cold realities of what's happening in front of your eyes then that's on you.

Originally Posted by Wailode ↗

And yes, only reason why ukraine regime didnt falled yet is that it is supported by collective west

"But if reality were different then Russia would win"

"But if I were taller then I wouldn't be short"

Russia has to deal with with the fact that Ukraine has some powerful friends. Where was that bullet point when Putin was deciding whether to do this or not. Sounds like a catastrophic mistake on his part, possibly the largest one.

Everyone knows that without help from the west, eventually Ukraine's very existence would come into question. I haven't come across anyone who has said Ukraine can do this by itself. It can't. But that's not the reality we have today, Ukraine has friends and they seem quite committed and you need to deal with that.

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by Wailode ↗

You are the one who is here on copium. Look at history. Do you see anyone who broke russia ? Look at napoleon or hitler. Just watch.

No one's attacking Russia with ground armies with the intent to wipe it out. A stupid and irrelevant comment.

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by Wailode ↗

literally anything that comes out of his mouth

[Wailode]

Russians made fatal mistakes at the start of the war. Even Putin was naive and he thought that ukraine will just capitulate after they will storm kiev with few hundread of soldiers.

But current state of war is drastically changed. Ukraine's longevity in this war is holding on endless support of weapons. Their manpower is more limited then russian's.

And about argument why is russia not making advances or taking cities. It is because its strategically inefective. Attacking or taking ground that is fortified and full of military is pure suicide. Holding positions and methodic long term war is politically and logistically better for them. Attacking now or taking ground would make them huge losses. They are in no rush. They know time is in their favor. Just look at political side of all this. Every day, russia is more united and eu more divided. Paradox.

I think best for Ukraine is to change their pro-western regime, but its too late now. People are already brainwashed by war propaganda and naive wishfull thinking they will be part of NATO.

Russia acknowledged that Ukraine have powerfull friends. But they dont give a shit, its existential for them. If Ukraine wins, Russia will be crumbled and divided next. They already lived through this once when ZSSR fall apart.

Both are committed to their cause. And yes, Russia also have powerfull friends and is backed by belarus, china and iran. So if USA pushes NATO into war, you are in WW3. And you really dont want this. No one sane want this..

[dandroid]

For NATO this is great. This is like an accelerated Afghanistan for Russia. 10 x the kia. NATO's greatest threat is being methodically whittled down. Russia went from having the 2nd best army to like 5th.

[Wailode]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

No one's attacking Russia with ground armies with the intent to wipe it out. A stupid and irrelevant comment.

Yes, you still live in fairy tail where ukraine were asking for nuclear weapons and making one of the biggest armies in the world for years, just to hug russians ? oh please, dont be that naive. This war was pre-planned for decades, look at RAND corporation archive. Division of russian federation to many smaller states is long term goal.

[Wailode]

Originally Posted by dandroid ↗

For NATO this is great. This is like an accelerated Afghanistan for Russia. NATO's greatest threat is being methodically whittled down. Russia went from having the 2nd best army to like 5th.

On the opposite. By escalating conflict. EU pushed Russia into raising larger and bigger military complex and donation of it. Growing BRICS and their economy with eastern partners.

[dandroid]

So all those lost tanks and other vehicles, all those helicopters and jets, and the 150k dead or wounded are just going to magically replenish itself?