[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

I called the losing of Bakhmut because of the ISW reports saying it was holding strong (= knowing they were full of shit), I didn’t look at any data other than ‘people in the know’ claiming it was not lost

Wrong. Today's ISW information on Bakhmut is all together not good for the Ukrainian side at all, they stated that Russians continued their assaults and made gains at the Yahidne area and that Paraskoviivka was confirmed taken with video evidence and that Prigozhin's claim from yesterday was shown to be correct.

Is there any end to your lies? Just stop already.

[Roosta]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Three. Biden cannot even go onto the toilet by himself unsupervised and thus it is highly unlikely he is making any decisions

I do believe that it was Putin who shit his pants after falling down a couple of steps !

[Faust]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

Wrong. Today's ISW information on Bakhmut is all together not good for the Ukrainian side at all, they stated that Russians continued their assaults and made gains at the Yahidne area and that Paraskoviivka was confirmed taken with video evidence and that Prigozhin's claim from yesterday was shown to be correct.

Is there any end to your lies? Just stop already.

That is not at all how I remember it

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

That basically means it will be officially confirmed in less than 2 weeks

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

That is not at all how I remember it

Deflection.

You implied that ISW recently was saying Bakhmut was "holding strong". That's why I responded with what I did. That's not the case and you're just lying again.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

Deflection.

You implied that ISW recently was saying Bakhmut was "holding strong". That's why I responded with what I did. That's not the case and you're just lying again.

I believe some ISWs are still claiming that; with all their little maps and updates and twitter threads

[RaNer]

Originally Posted by ride ↗

Well, I guess RaNer has told us, man. Time to fold up the tents, tuck our tails between our legs, and admit that the collective we here at DR have absolutely no idea what is really happening in Ukraine - but he does. Every single thing that has happened to him personally in-theater must be taken at face value, and his experiences must be extrapolated to include the entirety of what is happening to military personnel and units on both sides of the conflict.

Fausting, Whaleload, and El Jubo's Drag Race are poseurs and pretenders to the throne of mis-information and mis-direction. All hail the new king! All-seeing, all-knowing, sage, soothsayer, prognosticator, the George Santos of the Ukrainian Conflict, RaNer!

Cynicism is lowest form of critique. I didn't ask anyone to take what I've said at "face value". It's an information you can trust or not, use or not use, observe or not.

When it comes to "knowing better" that's very subjective. Mine experience is subjective but arguments objective. Also it's very ardent to make such a claims when half of this forum knows me by where I come from, my face, name and etc. Again, I need to be a parrot because of non-existent discussion without any sort of critical or progressive discussion.

Also I'm not Russian. I fought Russians. Soviets wanted to attack my country. Calling me a bot is ridiculous claim. But that's the problem with people that are so detected of reality - whenever they hear something they don't like they use slander, lies and insults.

My profile quote on Gore site. Really? That quote is from movie "The Exorcist" and I found it funny when that girl Regan said it. Wow, you are onto something.

I speak 4 international languages, I wonder how much languages other then English you speak.

[RaNer]

I don't know what the hell chatGPT thing is. Probably because 1. I don't care about apps. 2. I don't have time to explore things that do not really interest me. My interests are: music, social discussions, sports, cars, movies, gore, warfare ...

[RaNer]

Originally Posted by Roosta ↗

You want to preach shit about the big western propaganda machine & yet your own country participated in war crimes, rape, ethnic cleansing of generations of ppl. No wonder that you are a pro ruskie whore !

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
Numerous war crimes were committed by Serbian military and Serbian paramilitary forces during the Yugoslav Wars. The crimes included massacres, ethnic cleansing, systematic rape, crimes against humanity and genocide. The International Court of Justice, cleared the Republic of Serbia of direct involvement in genocide, but found that it had failed to prevent mass killings, rapes, and ethnic cleansing.

Like I said, Те ебам !

For example this is fine example of trying to use history, mix it up with opinion and present it to ... gain political upper hand? Pathetic.

Okay, let's talk justice now. And my people were actually fighting vs Serbian people.

Let me ask you this - if Croatia had right to take parts of ex-Yugoslavia within AVNOJ borders then how come the same does not apply for Russia? Those territories were majorly populated by Serbs. Not to say USA applied embargo towards Croatia and Croatia wanted same thing as Ukraine. Guess who sent arms to Croatia? Russians.

Then, let's talk about what is actually freedom fighting and righteousness. Right now we are hosting thousands of Ukrainians, who get job easy without being even EU citizen, give them shelter and food and they still want more. And us being like we are we will do it. They even want better hotels. They actually voice it. And supposedly they are escaping war.

You are using Yugoslav conflict while saying you are from DR trying to devalue my sound arguments that actually has essence. Then why the hell are you commenting Yugoslav wars? Wikipedia. That tells a lot, your war source and opinion is based on Internet and media. And that's main difference between us.

And one fun fact - in Yugoslav wars, Ukrainian volunteers came and fought against Croatians as Croats are over 90% catholic. Now they scream help! What an irony, how miserable.

Double standards is what you should avoid. It's pure acid, it's childish and it leads to nothing. And don't think Serbs and Croats hate each other, deep down they all know they are Slavs, same as Ukrainians and Russians. That's why it's funny you even think I'm "pro-Russian" - our biggest leader, that united us, Marshall Tito bitchslaped Stalin in a way USA/UK leaders couldn't for 300 years. Combined.

There should not be semantics or lies in dangerous things like this.

Those are just facts that needs to be known. I personally don't care if they will wage total war against each other but truth above ALL.

Also Cyrillic was used to offend this Serbian guy.(Serbs know both Cyrillic and Latinic). So I will send him another message to counter your venomous mentality: "Hej slaveni još ste živi duh naših djedova, dok za narod srce bije njihovih sinova!"

[Faust]

Thanks for your effort RaNer but you are obviously new here if you expect any meaningful discussion lol.

Here there is only the post-2022 BBC/CNN narrative believed, this means:
-There are no national socialists in Ukraine
-there was no civil war from 2014
-Minsk agreements never existed
-Ukraine is not a corrupt shithole but an upstanding EU candidate
-Putin wants to take over Ukraine
-Putin wants to restore the Soviet empire

-Maersheimer, Kissinger, Chomsky, are all lying and have been Putin shills for years trying to pretend Nato was expending

-Nato never started any wars or aggression.
-Nato means peace

I am missing a few but this is what the majority of (foul mouthed) posters here 100% believe and subscribe to, so good luck

[Rikbikboo]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Three. Biden cannot even go onto the toilet by himself unsupervised and thus it is highly unlikely he is making any decisions

They didn’t allow
Him to visit. They knew for a fact that if they blew him
Up it would have been game over. Sorry but that’s a load of bollocks. If they were that confident they would have blown him up and said to hell with it. We were offing the guy who is supplying the weapons. They didn’t “offer” him Security at all. They were told that he was visiting and if they were silly enough to kill the man they would have their asses handed to them. Probably a bit more diplomatically than that. But that’s more or less the jist of it. It’s the same reason probably why Pootin hasn’t been erased with a few well aimed cruise missiles. It wouldn’t be difficult to do, but both sides know what that would lead too.

Gave him him security.

Too confident of an answer for a forum sorry.


Having watched Pootins two hour statement today it’s plain to see the guys turned into a whack job. Your with us or your against us. Mentality says it all.

I did notice howeve that he’s changed his tune to “we wouldn’t use the first nuke. Only a few months ago it was we wouldn’t hesitate. Big talk really. He should have just stayed in his own corner and minded his own business. He wouldn’t have have the world against him.

It’s a pity. For a while there it seemed that Russia and the US seemed to be getting along quite well since the end of the Cold War. I guess he just couldn’t sit and allow those satellite states to do their own thing because he felt threatened. When the reality is actually things looked be coming along reasonable well.

Perhaps I missed a few things. And I’ll say again. This really does seem to be just the beginning if the end. No One will allow the man to just walk
Across Ukraine Willy nilly and he isn’t going to retreat. So whether it takes a year of five only bad can come of it all

I actually used to admire the man. He used to speak like he was actually sensible and now a war monger I, for a while used to think he had a lot of valid points. Now I think he’s spent the last 20 years syphoning off the cash for his own, and close friends purposes while simultaneously brainwashing half a nation.

What great things could have been achieved workign together. Was never gonna happen