[scorpion9]

Haha, check out some of the recent Russian war propaganda.
Damn, it's so stupid that its borderline satire.
It's showing Russians as empoverished alcoholics who should join the army and kill for money.
Even funnier, the things that they want to buy for their mercenary money - western goods, like a phone and a car( Ford ... not Lada :D )

[Wailode]

Finally some good journalists with reason breaking up propaganda of collective west:

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by Wailode ↗

Finally some good journalists with reason breaking up propaganda of collective west:

Dude on the left looks high.

Dude on the right says that because the Ukrainians used flechette anti-personnel artillery rounds in Donbass in 2014, and that a few Bucha bodies had those wounds, then it was Ukrainians who killed them.

Conveniently omits that these artillery rounds would have been of Russian manufacture and that both sides have them. And that some of them could have been killed by Russian artillery before they arrived at Bucha on foot. Completely omits that most of the civilians in Bucha were shot, not killed by artillery.

States that Russians don't shell their own positions. If he was a journalist that was worth his salt, he would know that there has been friendly fire artillery incidents on both sides, especially Russian side.

Also conveniently omits the video footage of civilians rounded up with their hands tied behind their back being led across the street and behind a building, one of them with a distinctive blue coat on, and what do you know, that whole group of people were found shot behind that geolocated building, executed by rifle.

"Journalists". Yeah... no. Just a couple hacks who don't know what they're talking about and seem to have selective hearing.

[Wailode]

Interesting podcast:

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by Wailode ↗

Interesting podcast:

Ritter says Russia is "expanding" its military industry. Now how is that taking place during severe wartime sanctions when most of their higher-tech vehicles depend on asian or European/American microchips or other products.Their main tank plant Uralvagonzavod shut down months ago and might still be shut down. The countless documented cases we've seen here on DR of Russians taking appliances out of Ukraine because they have microchips in them. Doesn't take a genius to figure out Russia's war industry is severely hurting.

So according to Ritter in spring Putin is going to give the Ukrainians the option to surrender? How do you watch this crap with a straight face, are you at all paying attention? Peskov was only a month ago saying that Putin was ready to negotiate and that Ukrainians are "brothers".

This dude is so full of shit. Absolutely living in lala land. Psych evaluation.

[WonderMomma]

It's difficult enough to take government, "official", and established media sources seriously during a situation like this... let alone internet wanna be "somebody's" spouting their opinions and further, using those to continuously present one's incredibly spurious case. No thanks, I'm not interested. I've tried, we've all tried having these conversations and it goes no where.

We've been attempting to find some common ground with fellow members with different perspectives... and it's becoming quite clear the only way that is going to happen is to talk about about something else that's not related to war or politics. As a fellow human being, I respect everyone's right to feel and believe how they may... but like religion and politics, stop shoving it down my throat.

If you want to really be of value here, stop posting the youtuber/content whore opinions, old videos, and specific stuff that argues things we will never agree upon... and just post the combat/war related media from the Russian side of things. We currently have a bit of a void of material from that side of things and I still say it's crucial to show/document/consume both sides of this. More what is happening and less of why we and other "commoners" think it so.

[Roosta]

Originally Posted by Wailode ↗

Finally some good journalists with reason breaking up propaganda of collective west:

More shit discussed by a couple of nobodies.
No facts, no proof, just talk !

[Wailode]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

Ritter says Russia is "expanding" its military industry. Now how is that taking place during severe wartime sanctions when most of their higher-tech vehicles depend on asian or European/American microchips or other products.Their main tank plant Uralvagonzavod shut down months ago and might still be shut down. The countless documented cases we've seen here on DR of Russians taking appliances out of Ukraine because they have microchips in them. Doesn't take a genius to figure out Russia's war industry is severely hurting.

So according to Ritter in spring Putin is going to give the Ukrainians the option to surrender? How do you watch this crap with a straight face, are you at all paying attention? Peskov was only a month ago saying that Putin was ready to negotiate and that Ukrainians are "brothers".

This dude is so full of shit. Absolutely living in lala land. Psych evaluation.

Ironically, Eu and west were hit by their sanctions more then russia. Its now well known fact almost amongst all who literally doesnt lost all common sense. Kiev's propaganda is crumbling down.

Also Russia is preparing new winter offensive. For ukraine there is no chance to withstand long-term war that is existential for Russia. They have still around 1 milion of armyman in backup. The only reason why ukraine can still hold on is because of endless support from USA and their war machine propaganda that is full of lies and crooked dishonesty and hypocrisy. Honestly, people here in eu now see more and more how USA is corrupt and crooked in their goals. We dont want you here. Thats why support for ukraine nazi-regime that glorifies bandera and azov is going rapidly down.

[Wailode]

Another great insight. He can name things as they are without a serviette. The narrative of usa on ukraine is mostly build on lies and propaganda. India, arabs and euroasia realized this.

[duntez]

Originally Posted by Wailode ↗

Finally some good journalists with reason breaking up propaganda of collective west:

According to Brit and Ukr medics most of the people died from arta. Friendly fire here don’t make sense because there was no street fights after Russians rolled in. Just Ukr arta shelling the city AKA Russian positions