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“If you want good living conditions for your people, then you are a fascist!!”

These people are basically stanning for their own governments who fuck them over on occasion, or more often recently.
Once more people stop viewing Russia as the enemy, those governments have a real issue on their hands. They either get voted away, or the protests will not stay peaceful. Uncle Sam wont mind, the more weak the euro becomes, the harder his dick gets.

The special military operation is not the cause, but merely a result of a diseased world. In a way it is a futile attempt to cut away some of the cancer.

A symptom of the diseased world is people cheering on that Ukrainian people are led to the slaughter and entire cities get destroyed. All because that could hurt our Mortal Enemy, Russia, who main crime is supplying cheap gas all over the world, not supporting LGBTQ rights, nor wanting NATO bases on their borders.

As for the 2031 Western Coalition Forces invasion of Former Ukraine, whose side will you be on?

I think US needs EU. Together It’s like having 9 judges out of 10 in your favor, your buddies and together they can pull practically anything on international arena. At the same time IMO US wants to hold EU on a short leash and have a control over them. I still don’t understand how US can employ their law to other sovereign countries forcing them to stop working with w/e country US has a problem with. And if those countries will not accept it, this law allows US to put sanctions on that country… like wtf. Do what I say or else - defunding!
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This is what real journalism looks like:

https://www.rt.com/news/563573-ukrai...ualties-tanks/

“ Podolyak insisted Ukraine was losing far fewer soldiers than Russia, echoing the words of Zelensky, who said last week that his army was suffering at least 50 daily casualties but that Russian losses dwarfed that figure by a factor of five. Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu had announced just days earlier that, while Russia has lost 6,000 troops since the beginning of the offensive in February, Ukraine has lost about 61,000. According to the Ukrainian side, about 55,000 Russian soldiers have been killed. According to the CIA, by the end of July Russia had lost more than 15,000 troops in Ukraine. British intelligence reported 20,000 deaths back in June.”

Just give all reported ‘facts’. I understand how weird this must be to some people:
“why would they report the enemies statements?? :S Do they even propaganda bro?! Do they even?? I cannot understand :( !”
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I think US needs EU. Together It’s like having 9 judges out of 10 in your favor, your buddies and together they can pull practically anything on international arena. At the same time IMO US wants to hold EU on a short leash and have a control over them. I still don’t understand how US can employ their law to other sovereign countries forcing them to stop working with w/e country US has a problem with. And if those countries will not accept it, this law allows US to put sanctions on that country… like wtf. Do what I say or else - defunding!
Yeah that is why Nord2 got delayed and why it will get really ugly soon when temperatures drop. I think US civil war could start a world war, but if it goes well, it would mean more EU independence
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This is what real journalism looks like:

https://www.rt.com/news/563573-ukrai...ualties-tanks/


Just give all reported ‘facts’. I understand how weird this must be to some people:

But anyway.
Logic here is simple- RT by propaganding western propaganda is propaganda too
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Who knows... Litvinenko mentioned more than once that Putin, during the years of robbing the residents of Leningrad while being a local official, enjoyed sexual intercourse in the bottom sharply and passively by young boys from Leningrad Central Station. Whoever reveals sacred secrets must suffer punishment....
Do you take his words as a prove?
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Oh Faust, just do not call RT real journalism. Why not searching for real indipendened sources that fits your pro-russian opinions. I think, there should be sites that are not funded with russian money.
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ok, those who like to read, could you please read this article and tell me your thoughts. I know a lot of you will not agree with this info. If you will say "americanconservative" is lame, please explain why or if you thin the guy who wrote this article (Douglas Macgregor, Col. (ret.) is a senior fellow with The American Conservative, the former advisor to the Secretary of Defense in the Trump administration, a decorated combat veteran) is delusional, please explain why officer of his level and experience would write a madness like this

https://www.theamericanconservative....nd-losing-war/
Anytime someone uses something about there political views as the title for their page and makes it the main focus of their personality…it’s hard to accept their statements at face value. “The American Conservative“ sounds like something that should be heavily scrutinized. The same thing could and should be said for “The American Liberal”. Accepting only one political outlook is toxic.
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Anytime someone uses something about there political views as the title for their page and makes it the main focus of their personality…it’s hard to accept their statements at face value. “The American Conservative“ sounds like something that should be heavily scrutinized. The same thing could and should be said for “The American Liberal”. Accepting only one political outlook is toxic.
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Oh Faust, just do not call RT real journalism. Why not searching for real indipendened sources that fits your pro-russian opinions. I think, there should be sites that are not funded with russian money.
I am anti-Russia, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Anyway, I gave an example as to what real journalism is; they don’t claim a certain number, they just report on multiple conflicting numbers.

Your idea of RT probably is that they would never mention any outside numbers which are not Kremlin-approved. Yet they do.

Maybe you can argue that they report on the truth often enough, just to win trust so they can spread lies? But yeah, if you are open minded, just pick 1 article from their front page or archive that you believe is a lie, and I promise you that there will be sources collaborating it. I also understand if you don’t want to do this or if you are afraid of ‘losing’ the argument; in this conflict there are no winners either way. people here fight on DR.com, and over there, people get ripped apart by bombs that make no distinction between women or kids or men, even dogs and other animals die. But yeah, arguing about the reasons surrounding it or about news sources is a distraction for me to cope with the horrors of todays world.

Look at those motherfuckers in the picture for example:

Nobody in the west gives a fuck if they die. Since 2014 they are being killed for wanting to be independent. Now those people believe becoming part of Russia means their kids get to have a life without war. This is how desperate they are, still they try and smile. Anyway, they get destroyed by an artillery strike on a bus stop before Thursday and really, nobody gives a fuck as they are considered the enemy, especially those voting for what they believe, will bring peace to their region
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I am anti-Russia, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Anyway, I gave an example as to what real journalism is; they don’t claim a certain number, they just report on multiple conflicting numbers.

Your idea of RT probably is that they would never mention any outside numbers which are not Kremlin-approved. Yet they do.

Maybe you can argue that they report on the truth often enough, just to win trust so they can spread lies? But yeah, if you are open minded, just pick 1 article from their front page or archive that you believe is a lie, and I promise you that there will be sources collaborating it. I also understand if you don’t want to do this or if you are afraid of ‘losing’ the argument; in this conflict there are no winners either way. people here fight on DR.com, and over there, people get ripped apart by bombs that make no distinction between women or kids or men, even dogs and other animals die. But yeah, arguing about the reasons surrounding it or about news sources is a distraction for me to cope with the horrors of todays world.

Look at those motherfuckers in the picture for example:

Nobody in the west gives a fuck if they die. Since 2014 they are being killed for wanting to be independent. Now those people believe becoming part of Russia means their kids get to have a life without war. This is how desperate they are, still they try and smile. Anyway, they get destroyed by an artillery strike on a bus stop before Thursday and really, nobody gives a fuck as they are considered the enemy, especially those voting for what they believe, will bring peace to their region
Yeah, your army becomes an enemy army with the first shells.. that’s what happened in 2014. I still don’t understand why those fuckers Turchinov and Co did not want to negotiate peacefully. Terrorist/separatist tag was given right of the back, like someone really wanted that war to happen.
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I am anti-Russia, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Anyway, I gave an example as to what real journalism is; they don’t claim a certain number, they just report on multiple conflicting numbers.

Your idea of RT probably is that they would never mention any outside numbers which are not Kremlin-approved. Yet they do.

Maybe you can argue that they report on the truth often enough, just to win trust so they can spread lies? But yeah, if you are open minded, just pick 1 article from their front page or archive that you believe is a lie, and I promise you that there will be sources collaborating it. I also understand if you don’t want to do this or if you are afraid of ‘losing’ the argument; in this conflict there are no winners either way. people here fight on DR.com, and over there, people get ripped apart by bombs that make no distinction between women or kids or men, even dogs and other animals die. But yeah, arguing about the reasons surrounding it or about news sources is a distraction for me to cope with the horrors of todays world.

Look at those motherfuckers in the picture for example:

Nobody in the west gives a fuck if they die. Since 2014 they are being killed for wanting to be independent. Now those people believe becoming part of Russia means their kids get to have a life without war. This is how desperate they are, still they try and smile. Anyway, they get destroyed by an artillery strike on a bus stop before Thursday and really, nobody gives a fuck as they are considered the enemy, especially those voting for what they believe, will bring peace to their region
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