[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

Too bad none cared this much about Donbas

Yeah,

The west should have intervened much sooner, as soon as the Russian green men and Russian backed militias started waging war there.
It would have been over within a month or two.
It would have been a win win for everyone.
If someone didn't like to stay there, under Ukrainian rule, then they could have left to Russia.
More than half a million Russian mobilization refugees show that if things get inconvenient, people will move. It's that simple. If you don't like the country you live in...move into the one you do like.
It would have been cheaper for Russia to do a "total recall" of all Russians living outside of its borders and build brand new cities for them and give away all the apartments and businesses for free.

But yeah, looks like world war 3 seems more reasonable for Russia, so...we keep marching towards that end goal.

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

They were charging money for the evacuation?
Wish we could find the original

I think the mention of money could have been made in regard to where they will go and what they will do after they are evacuated, not that there is a fee for the Army to help them escape. But leave it to Faust to read more into this to twist it around to his favor at every turn.

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

All I can think of right now is that byla got noveled! What a crazy world we live in

Of course. It's hard to argue with facts.

[duntez]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

Of course. It's hard to argue with facts.

But you are still arguing

[Roosta]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

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Now that it's in Video form maybe Duntez & Faust will be able to understand it a bit better as they are clearly lost understanding English !

[Roosta]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

Where do you think I'm referring to when I talk about the people wanting to make territories in Ukraine their own or Russia? Fiji?

I can't speak for the rest on this site or the world but you two seem to be absolutely STUCK in believing that people in the west and US in general are all the same, you know what news I read, you know what I am thinking all the time and that I hate Russia/Donbas/Crimea.

I do give a shit about those people. People like your mom who have no influence or power on this war and live in a place they loathe but are powerless to make the changes they want to see. Or how the people who do have power are using violence as a means to and end whoring themselves out to Vladimir Putin to do it.

The fact still remains... and it's very simple... Ukraine does not want to give those areas up. Case closed, end of story. If you can produce undeniable proof to me that Ukraine has no legal right or "ownership" of the country of Ukraine, then let's talk.

I have attempted, more times than most "westerners" or "global community" people would even entertain with the two of you to have civil discussions about all of this, free of bickering, insults, and degradation. I get nothing back but just that... along with assumptions, mind reading, and personal insults about whether I'm happy with my body, my relationship, and whether I'm addicted to drugs and alcohol.

Now I have my "cnn reading" head up my ass and don't care about the Donbas.

I'm absolutely done making an effort. My real life relationships aren't this tedious, vampiric and high maintenance.

Well said WM !

[Roosta]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

I think the mention of money could have been made in regard to where they will go and what they will do after they are evacuated, not that there is a fee for the Army to help them escape. But leave it to Faust to read more into this to twist it around to his favor at every turn.

I'm sure Faust & Duntez are Twins !

[Leffe]

There's a select few on this thread who are for sure abusing their prescription

[duntez]

Originally Posted by scorpion9 ↗

Yeah,

The west should have intervened much sooner, as soon as the Russian green men and Russian backed militias started waging war there.
It would have been over within a month or two.
It would have been a win win for everyone.
If someone didn't like to stay there, under Ukrainian rule, then they could have left to Russia.
More than half a million Russian mobilization refugees show that if things get inconvenient, people will move. It's that simple. If you don't like the country you live in...move into the one you do like.
It would have been cheaper for Russia to do a "total recall" of all Russians living outside of its borders and build brand new cities for them and give away all the apartments and businesses for free.

But yeah, looks like world war 3 seems more reasonable for Russia, so...we keep marching towards that end goal.

even sooner. as soon you saw pro western opposition broke the agreement and took power, illegally and by force. And they woudnt do it without western "go ahead" There are politicians in EU who thinks the same way. Cant call them all by the names, but one come to mind is Sahra Wagenkneht from German parliament. I think the reason why west let them do it is because they were absolutely sure Russia won't do anything but talking and pointing fingers.

"could left to Russia"

The most ridiculous thing prowesties keep repeating. They are home. My parents are home. If anything let those Ukrainians go to Europe and free all the lands for southeastern Ukrainians. Sounds stupid right? Thats what im talking about too.

"dont like the country you live in"

How about dont like the goverment that rule this country?


Russia dont want WW3 ( I hope)...but cant back down and will be in this shit to the end. Loose or win. Do you think NATO could possibly move in onto western territories? Move their armies as close as lets say 200 km away from the front line and without engaging in the fight, save Ukraine mission or something. Do you think Russia will respond by talking ro will actually start bombing?

[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

even sooner. as soon you saw pro western opposition broke the agreement and took power, illegally and by force. And they woudnt do it without western "go ahead" There are politicians in EU who thinks the same way. Cant call them all by the names, but one come to mind is Sahra Wagenkneht from German parliament. I think the reason why west let them do it is because they were absolutely sure Russia won't do anything but talking and pointing fingers.

"could left to Russia"

The most ridiculous thing prowesties keep repeating. They are home. My parents are home. If anything let those Ukrainians go to Europe and free all the lands for southeastern Ukrainians. Sounds stupid right? Thats what im talking about too.

"dont like the country you live in"

How about dont like the goverment that rule this country?


Russia dont want WW3 ( I hope)...but cant back down and will be in this shit to the end. Loose or win. Do you think NATO could possibly move in onto western territories? Move their armies as close as lets say 200 km away from the front line and without engaging in the fight, save Ukraine mission or something. Do you think Russia will respond by talking ro will actually start bombing?

"....and took power, illegally and by force"
A nice sweet revolution...against a politician that betrayed its people. If only people in every country did the same, we would have a decent government that cares about its people and we wouldn't have dictators anymore.

"I think the reason why the west let them do it....blame the west ...bla bla"
the west didn't do anything or allow anything during the Maidan revolution. It was all Ukrainians. And all for a good reason.

"They are home."
No, they are not.
If you believe that you are a Russian but look at a map, and see that you are in Ukraine, then you should realize that you are not at home. You should move to Russia to be in home. Its simple.
1) Are you Russian
2) If yes, check the country you are in.
2.1) Is it Russia?
2.1.1) Yes....All good, you are at home

2.1.2) No....You are in some other country that is not Russia
You are not at home. You can stay where you are, but you should know that it is useful to learn the language and habits of the country you are in.

The reality is that Russia is the largest country in the world. It doesn't need any more land. If it really ....truyly cared for its people abroad...it would recall them to Russia. Win-win. Russia needs young people due to demographic problems...and Russians living abroad would get to return to their ancestral homeland.

Im just curious...would you approve an invasion and genocide of people living in the Baltics too? Should we give up the little land we have so Russians who replaced the locals who were murdered or deported from Baltics could feel better?

How about starting an invasion and genocide in Kazakhstan and Georgia? So many Russians escaped into those countries that it warrants a liberation...don't you think? There are a lot of Russians living in the United States too. They need liberation too...i think.