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Re: Russian Invasion Ukraine. Day: 495/496/497/498 (July 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th)

Addition to that Kremennaya trenches video. Seems like another US guy. Maybe that was international battalion fighters
Maybe.
Flag/insignia isn't really enough to be sure its an American.
A lot of western trained Ukrainians swapped their flags/insignia with those who trained them. Some carry US flag because they are fans of US or just want to show solidarity. I.e a lot of soldiers here in Estonia do the opposite, and carry Ukrainian flags/insignia. I personally don't like this practice but...fine. Each to their own.
One reason why I think it might not actually be an Ameriocan is because of the Samsung phone :D
Americans have iPhones. Androids are seen as poor-people phones over there :D
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Re: Russian Invasion Ukraine. Day: 495/496/497/498 (July 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th)

A short question regarding this, I understand that the general consensus (Pentagon, US generals, EU leaders, and basically everybody that ever commented on it) is that the “liquidated personnel” number that Ukraine publishes is greatly inflated. Does that impact the credibility of their other published numbers?

Edit for context: Not shooting the messenger or saying you are spreading lies/propaganda don’t worry, just interested in why you would place trust in numbers that are in the same place as those questionable numbers
Because a lot of the numbers have been verified and are roughly in the ballpark. I.e the "oryx" photo/video verified casualties matched more or less the actual reported casualties in the beginning.
Russian self reported casualties numbers also roughly matched the numbers reported by Ukraine.
By self reported, I don't mean Russian MOD fairy tale numbers, but numbers and stats reported by Russian soldiers. I.e how often they say that they have lost 20% of their company or when they say that "our platoon has lost x people for every 100 meters of front line". You can then infer, roughly, how many casualties there are in total. There were some other attempts to estimate the losses( by looking at the amount of money allocated to funeral payments, spikes in weddings in Russia etc).

I don't think that Ukraine is even deliberately inflating the numbers. It just very difficult to verify anything in war and soldiers self report "hits" even if they are not sure.
My guess is that the losses of 230 000 are more or less correct, but, its total losses, including wounded and deserters. I don't think that it's 230 000 dead. That would be way too much.
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➡️ "In one of the forest belts near Bakhmut, artillery and mortars of the Third Assault Brigade are destroying orcs"

➡️ A reported Russian vehicle with troops on top (looks like an MT-LB) gets hit by something and crashes.

➡️ M2A2 Bradley destroying a RU tank. Judging from the flight time, tank was around 2.5km away.

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Re: Russian Invasion Ukraine. Day: 495/496/497/498 (July 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th)

**CIVILIAN WARNING**

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I am posting this information in chronological order it was posted by the source. As of 16:00 ET | 20:00 UTC | 23:00 local time there are 6 dead, 40 people injured and rescue operations continue.

UPDATE 18:00 ET | 22:00 UTC | 02:00+ local time: A woman's body was found in the rubble, bringing the amount of deaths to 7.


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1️⃣-3️⃣"Night attack on Lviv. What is known

◾️Russian missile hit an apartment building - rescuers recovered the bodies of three people, 8 others were injured

◾️about 60 apartments, 50 cars, and a critical infrastructure facility were damaged

◾️rescuers continue to dismantle the rubble, and emergency services are working at the scene. People are being prepared for resettlement

◾️the first explosion in the city occurred at about 2:30 am. The Ukrainian Air Force warned of a missile threat in the western direction

◾️"Russia is targeting residential buildings," said the head of the Lviv Regional Military Administration."

4️⃣"The head of the Lviv Regional Military Administration clarified the data on the consequences of the missile strike. The youngest of the four victims was 21 years old, and the oldest was 95, a survivor of World War II.

More than 30 houses, more than 250 apartments, 10 dormitories, an orphanage, two higher education institutions and a sanatorium school were destroyed. The substation was also damaged, leaving 150 customers without electricity."

5️⃣"In Lviv, the body of another victim was pulled from the rubble. The death toll has risen to 5. The number of injured is 40 people. Search and rescue operations continue."

6️⃣"Russians celebrate killing of civilians in Lviv during todayʼs missile attack. Ukraine needs F-16 and ATACMS to stop russian evil. "

7️⃣"A young couple taking a shelter in their bathroom this night in Lviv during the Russian missile attack"

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NO MEDIA: "The death toll from a missile attack on Lviv has risen to six, as the body of another woman was found under the rubble, Mayor Sadovyi said.

According to the head of the regional military administration, Kozitsky, 70% of the damage has been cleared. Services will work at the site throughout the night."

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Re: Russian Invasion Ukraine. Day: 495/496/497/498 (July 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th)

like i give a shit about this reddit copefest forum section
Don't worry, nobody gives two shits about you either. Have you even posted media in this MEDIA thread? Even once? Or is your whole existence revolved around self-hatred driven trolling because you are just that much of loser in real life so you just waste space, like the vatnik "Tornado" in this video right here.

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A short question regarding this, I understand that the general consensus (Pentagon, US generals, EU leaders, and basically everybody that ever commented on it) is that the “liquidated personnel” number that Ukraine publishes is greatly inflated. Does that impact the credibility of their other published numbers?

Edit for context: Not shooting the messenger or saying you are spreading lies/propaganda don’t worry, just interested in why you would place trust in numbers that are in the same place as those questionable numbers
As I've said a million times, all of these numbers should be taken with a grain of salt. But when it comes to comparing numbers that Russia puts out versus numbers that Ukraine puts out, the general consensus is that Ukraine numbers are far more realistic. Not completely accurate but more realistic. I'm not sure a 100% accurate count can be made until after the war has ended. But comparatively speaking, Russia has demonstrated many cases of false information, indisputably.

The last time Russia released information about the number of their soldiers lost was September 2022 and it was just under 6,000. Everyone else outside of Russia was reporting it was 10 times that amount at that time.

The other thing to consider when it comes to comparing ANYTHING Ukraine says versus what Russia says; Russia answers to almost no one else but themselves. China may have some small influence on some of their decisions but not much. Ukraine is attempting to join NATO/EU and has received billions in military aid from multiple countries. They have way more to prove and far more "people" to prove it to. They have many more "partners" to answer to in every decision they make and every statistic they put out. The same can be said about any forecasting that Ukraine would actually commit a nuclear terrorist attack on its own territory.
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Re: Russian Invasion Ukraine. Day: 495/496/497/498 (July 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th)

Wonder how our pro ruskies like those numbers.

No they don't.
The plans of arming Ukraine have already made for the next year as well. So, they can easily wait for half a year and start their main offensive with the support of western aviation and abrams tanks. This is what they probably should have done in the first place. The attacking side needs at least parity in air power.
Your absolutely right on this as IMO they need to consolidate their position with a push being centered around the "VIPERS" (F16's) leading the charge.
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And where's the 62 million $ AN/MPQ-64 Sentinel radar on that list?
It's right next to the 1L219 Zoopark-1 counter battery radar which Russians abandoned in perfect condition in Kharkiv oblast, September 2022.
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■ MaxxPro eats an ATGM.

■ French-made VAB armored personnel carriers and a Panthera T6 light armored car manufactured by Minerva Special Purpose Vehicle (MSPV) destroyed in the SMO zone.

■ Lancet vs 2S3 Akatsyia. Kherson.

■ Lancet vs T-80.

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1️⃣"Fighters of the 8th separate mountain assault battalion of the 10th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, if they have been fighting in the Donetsk direction for a long time, inflict another fire damage on the manpower of the occupiers."

2️⃣"Good morning at the positions of the occupiers in the Zaporozhye direction.

National Guardsmen of the "Lastivka" unit of the 11th brigade named after Mykhailo Hrushevskyi worked straight through the dugout, of which little was left."

3️⃣"South of Ukraine. Admin. border of Donetsk and Zaporizhzhia regions. Fighting in the area of Rivnopol settlement.

An attempt to attack by a Russian armored group consisting of three tanks was unsuccessful."

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