[kellyhound]

deleted the china one child policy unrelated to this thread comments and the US - Europe slavery past.

[Roosta]

Originally Posted by Guns N' Coffee ↗

The irony is these are actually kidnapped ukrainian children

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...n-via-belarus/

Exclusive: Belarus abducts thousands of Ukrainian children
Alexander Lukashenko implicated in alleged war crime as boys and girls as young as six are taken to camps in 'forced deportation'

Thousands of Ukrainian children have been forcibly deported to Belarus in an alleged war crime that could implicate president Alexander Lukashenko.

Some 2,150 Ukrainian children as young as six are estimated to have been taken to at least four camps in Belarus since September 2022, with the number expected to reach 3,000 by autumn this year. Some are alleged to have been given military training.

Evidence linking these crimes to Mr Lukashenko and other Belarusian officials has been submitted to the International Criminal Court (ICC), The Telegraph can reveal.

“We want to show the world that such activity [being] organised precisely by Mr Lukashenko is a war crime,” said Pavel Latushka, head of the opposition group National Anti-Crisis Management, which submitted the accusations.

“In our opinion, [he] is the main [individual] responsible for the forcible displacement of these children to Belarus … he directly gave instructions on organising the financing of these processes.”

Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, and Maria Lvova-Belova, Russia’s commissioner for children’s rights, already face an ICC arrest warrant, announced in March, for the alleged forced deportation of thousands of Ukrainian children into Russia.

The ICC’s investigation could now widen to include Mr Lukashenko and other Belarusian officials. The court said it assessed information received, and was “duty bound to protect the confidentiality” of such communications.

It comes weeks after Mr Lukashenko, described as Europe’s last dictator, cut a deal with the Russian president to host the troops from the Wagner militia that led a mutiny against the Kremlin.

Mr Lukashenko, increasingly believed to be a puppet leader of a Russian vassal state, has also this month taken delivery of Russian tactical nuclear warheads in a further threat to Europe and the West.

Moscow began systematically transporting children from Ukraine into Russia in the weeks before it invaded in late February 2022.

The practice has continued and the Ukrainian government now estimates that more than 19,500 children have been forcibly transferred by Russian authorities.

Only 361 of them have been returned to Ukraine, Darya Herasymchuk, the Ukrainian presidential commissioner for children’s rights, told The Telegraph.

More than 100 criminal cases have been filed in Ukraine regarding the illegal forced deportation of children, including to Belarus and Russia, the Ukrainian prosecutor-general’s office said.

Purported orphans are “evacuated” from eastern Ukraine by Russia into holding camps. Some of those children are then “adopted” into Russian families. Other children are sent to “holiday camps” by Russian-aligned officials, never to return.

Some of the children held in Belarus are believed to have been sent on to Russia, including in the far eastern reaches of the country, nearly 4,000 miles from Ukraine.

Ukrainian children being held in Belarus typically travel through Rostov-on-Don, a Russian city two hours from the Ukrainian border – from where Yevgeny Prigozhin, the Wagner chief, recently launched his armed rebellion.

From there, they are transferred by train to Minsk, the capital of Belarus, then taken by bus to various facilities, including at least four locations identified by researchers and human rights lawyers.

Camps of lost children
One document seen by The Telegraph is signed by Dmitry Mezentsev, chairman of a Russian-Belarusian body and former Russian ambassador to Belarus. It requests the co-operation between the Belarusian and Russian state railway operators to organise the “transportation of the children of Donbas for rehabilitation to the brotherly Belarus”.

The document has been submitted to the ICC as evidence by the National Anti-Crisis Management, run by a group of exiles who oppose the Belarusian government.

The organisation has also submitted other material, including Belarusian state media reports that explicitly state the movement of children by order of Mr Lukashenko.

Three “camps” are in the Minsk region, including the Ostroshitsky Gorodok Sanatorium, the Zubrenok national children’s educational and health centre, and Dubrava children’s camp, owned by the Belarusian state fertiliser company Belaruskali.

A fourth location is the Golden Sands Sanatorium in the Gomel region.

Families searching for missing children “may not even know their children are in Belarus”, said Kateryna Rashevska, a lawyer at the Regional Centre for Human Rights, a Ukrainian NGO.

One video submitted to the ICC as evidence shows the Gruzdev sisters, Belarusian pop singers, speaking to Ukrainian children at what is believed to be the Dubrava camp.

“So that we live in peace, so that Biden dies, God forgive me, so that Zelensky dies too, and Putin prospers and takes control of all of Ukraine,” the sisters say to dozens of children seated in the audience.

The number of children to be deported into Belarus is expected to top 3,000 this autumn, according to internal documents and Belarusian state media reports.

Russia says it is legally removing children from the threat of war. Authorities offer money to incentivise parents to “adopt” Ukrainian children.

The Telegraph has also found that children detained in holding camps in Russia are forced to undergo re-education and beaten if they refuse to comply.

Ukrainian children are often told they are Russian, forced to learn the Russian national anthem, spoken to only in Russian, and taught to denounce Ukraine before being adopted or fostered.

In rare cases, there have been instances of children undergoing training in the use of firearms and military vehicles. Mr Latushka’s group has also alleged that children held in Belarus are being taught how to use weapons.

Human rights activists have highlighted concerns regarding Ukrainian boys in their late teens – if they turn 18 after being forcibly deported to Russia, or Russian-occupied areas, they would fall in the mandatory age range for conscription.

“The situation is very dangerous for teenagers; if they are 17 years old, and boys, it is catastrophic,” said Ms Rashevska.

“After turning 18, they will be transferred as cannon fodder for this war; this is the Russian strategy.”

The Belarusian government did not respond to a request for comment. Mr Lukashenko in June said that he had offered to Mr Putin to host children in Belarus.

The Belarusian leader said he has reached out to Putin and they agreed to fund the children’s stay in Belarus from the state budget.

“This is how we started taking them here,” Mr Lukashenko said Tuesday. “We help improve their health and they leave. They actually don’t want to leave.”

A true travesty, kidnapping & brainwashing a bunch of kids, fuckin evil 101.

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

An Ukrainian tries harassing a Russian woman in Italy. When her husband bitch-slaps the Ukrainian around (as he should) the Ukrainian calls for Nato intervention, or something to that extent:

I tried translating the video but it was just to rough. One of them says they were against what was happening and that is why they are "here" and that Putin is a good man. Perhaps duntez can shed some light on what exactly is being said. (Please?)

So it seems like they were just having a bit of a heated discussion and the husband resorted to violence immediately which Faust finds perfectly ok. Telling. Again.

[WonderMomma]

"A mural was created in temporarily occupied Ukrainian Mariupol - Russian "authorities" said that it was a girl named Nastya with "NATO bombs falling on her", painted by an Italian artist Jorit Ciro Cerullo.

As if that story alone was not enough, it turned out that the picture of the girl was stolen from Helen Whittle, a photographer from Australia. It was a portrait of her own daughter, taken in 2018."

[Faust]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

"A mural was created in temporarily occupied Ukrainian Mariupol - Russian "authorities" said that it was a girl named Nastya with "NATO bombs falling on her", painted by an Italian artist Jorit Ciro Cerullo.

As if that story alone was not enough, it turned out that the picture of the girl was stolen from Helen Whittle, a photographer from Australia. It was a portrait of her own daughter, taken in 2018."

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That is some ol’ BS

What Russia (trough TASS) actually said is;

“ Italian street artist paints mural in support of Donbass children in Mariupol

The painting portrays a girl with red wounds, resembling tears blood running down her cheeks
ROME, July 14. /TASS/. Italian street artist Jorit (Ciro Cerullo) has painted a mural on a building in Mariupol to support the people of Donbass, the Corriere della Sera newspaper reported.

"The resistance that we should have supported is the resistance of Donbass against the Kiev regime," the newspaper quoted the artist as saying.

The painting portrays a girl with red wounds, resembling tears blood running down her cheeks.

Sharing the image of the mural on his account on Istagram (outlawed in Russia as belonging to the **** corporation, which has been recognized as extremist), Jorit asks: "What should be done with those eight million Russians who remain on the territory of Ukraine?"

He gives two answers to that question, the first one by former Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Timoshenko - "We need to drop a nuclear bomb on them," and the other by ex-President Pyotr Poroshenko, who said: "Our children will go to their kindergartens and schools, while their children will live in basements."

A day earlier, Jorit wrote: "They lied to us about Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, the Balkans; they deceived us on Libya and Syria. Now, I have the evidence proving that they are lying to us about Donbass."

"Do not trust those who lecture us on morality. Their hands are in blood up to elbows," the artist wrote.

He added that the real situation in Mariupol is directly opposite to what is being portrayed by the Western media.

"It is nothing but a dirty game for economic benefits. After Russia, they will turn to China," the artist added.

The artist made headlines in Russia when he painted a portrait of famous Russian writer Fyodor Dostoyevsky on the outskirts of his home city of Naples shortly after the start of the special military operation in Ukraine and amid the West’s attempts to cancel the Russian culture. Russian President Vladimir Putin mentioned this artwork when he said that it would be impossible to obliviate the Russian culture.”

https://tass.com/society/1646709

As for the original article (translated):

Jorit, the mural in Mariupol. And he sides with the Russians

of online editorial staff
The Neapolitan street artist painted the face of a little girl on a palace bombed by Moscow. And then he writes: 'the resistance we should have supported is that of the Donbass against the Kiev regime'

Jorit, the mural in Mariupol. And he sides with the Russians
Neapolitan street artist Jorit went to Mariupol, a Ukrainian city occupied by the Russians, and made a work while simultaneously taking a stand against Western support for Kiev. The artist (33 years old, real name Ciro Cerullo) made a painting on the facade of a building at the time bombed by the troops of Moscow who had attacked Mariupol by conquering it on May 20, 2022.
The gigantic mural - made in the typical style of Jorit - depicts a little girl with her face crossed by red stripes: a detail that the street artist had already used depicting San Gennaro, Maradona, Antonio Gramsci and other characters.
The artist then documented his speech on Instagram by publishing the final work on the building blackened by the bombs. Next to it he posted a comment with which he clearly sides with the pro-Russian side. "Now I have the evidence, they're lying to us about the Donbass too. Here ethics has nothing to do with it, be wary of those who would like to moralise us, their hands are stained with blood.' "There's no one to free here, it's the exact opposite of what they tell us on TV. The resistance we should have supported is that of the people of Donbass who have been fighting for 8 years to get rid of a regime, that of Kiev, which now has nothing democratic anymore. This is just a dirty game of economic interests. After Russia they will also want China.'
July 13, 2023 (edit July 13, 2023 | 19:36)

https://www.corriere.it/esteri/23_lu...4ec34a4c.shtml

Looks like the actual painting does not even have the bombs lol

(This is why I thought some of you would also believe the Uyghur stories TBH)

[Faust]

Here is the actual post:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CuwyG4SN...c4MmM1YmI2Ng==

[duntez]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

I tried translating the video but it was just to rough. One of them says they were against what was happening and that is why they are "here" and that Putin is a good man. Perhaps duntez can shed some light on what exactly is being said. (Please?)

So it seems like they were just having a bit of a heated discussion and the husband resorted to violence immediately which Faust finds perfectly ok. Telling. Again.

Dialog:
U: what are doing here? In this “rotten” west? Italia is rotten.

W: I forgot to ask you. The same what you doing here, understood?

U: So you are vacationing here hah?

W: Go to hell while my husband is not here.

U: Go to hell? And what’s going to happen?

W: You will see.

U: What? Russian world? Z patriot? Putin smart and outplayed everyone?

W: go fuck yourself!

U: go fuck yourself?

W: yes, go to your Zelle.

(Husband comes back)

M: what’s going on?

W: he started to record video.

U: you started to insult me

W: go away!

M: come here fucker

W: Lyosha no!

U: Common mother fucker, come closer

( fight starts)

U: stop, stop.

( someone: why is he provoking?!)

U: that’s it! Ok! Ok! I’m leaving..


He got what he deserved, if he have decided to provoke them just for Russian speech. Pulled out the camera to get cheap attention. I’ve met people like this here, dumb.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

He got what he deserved, if he have decided to provoke them just for Russian speech. Pulled out the camera to get cheap attention. I’ve met people like this here, dumb.

I see your point, but IMO violence should never be the (initial) answer (only if diplomacy fails). To harass a young mom when she is alone and vulnerable is a despicable act, however, her man should know the guy harassing her is a weak individual; otherwise he would not go after the woman. So the man should have just said “leave my family alone” and give the guy a chance to stop the harassment. But I am surprised the harasser uploaded the video even because he is the agressor in this scenario, even if he gets slapped around like a weak ….. ……

[Faust]

I thought this was really in bad taste, no matter how good they think their meat it. I hope the girl never sees it


Translation:

“ I of our meas is possible

Get EVERYTHING FOR A YEAR! I'LL GET IT!

The best minced meat with pork, cibulya, three salt and pepper. ( ( " Ready in just 3 seconds!”

[duntez]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

I see your point, but IMO violence should never be the (initial) answer (only if diplomacy fails). To harass a young mom when she is alone and vulnerable is a despicable act, however, her man should know the guy harassing her is a weak individual; otherwise he would not go after the woman. So the man should have just said “leave my family alone” and give the guy a chance to stop the harassment. But I am surprised the harasser uploaded the video even because he is the agressor in this scenario, even if he gets slapped around like a weak ….. ……

I mean, I against any sort of violence, but we are all have our boil point. I got a feeling that this was not the first time they spoke. The way she told her husband that he’s recording a video now made me feel like UA guy came back to take a video of them for his social media or w/e his purpose was. I guess guy had enough idk

Edit: he did it To legitimate his absence on the front line maybe? If you know what I mean