[duntez]

Meanwhile in Russia, Vladivostok, cemetery of the fallen ones was restored.

[duntez]

Meanwhile in China.
Chinese old timer with the tattoo of Putin

OP stating next to that pic it says “ fighting for the piece around the world”

[Guns N' Coffee]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

Meanwhile in China.
Chinese old timer with the tattoo of Putin

OP stating next to that pic it says “ fighting for the piece around the world”

I don't doubt this, from early education the Chinese mainlanders are taught to worship Lenin along with Mao, Marxism and Pro-Sovietism.

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

Not really. From that time up until 2014 people actually appreciated what Soviet Union did for UA. Out of uneducated farmers became one of the leaders in space exploration country and everything around it like the science , education, factories, heavy and light metallurgy …etc etc etc Ofc not all see it that way, I do and millions like me. Fight me

Pipe down mister.

(hope you get that joke)

I don't doubt that there were some that preferred the Soviet times. I just know that like you and those that do, there are many who don't.

I was just curious about the timeframe you gave of some of Ukraine trying to break away from communism. I think it's a little longer for others that started the process the moment the Soviet Union broke apart. But I do realize that there are some that didn't necessarily want that.

[Faust]

I thought this was pretty distasteful even though I am anti-nato

Edit: turns out at least some of them are fake

https://mythdetector.ge/en/fabricate...ine-el-jueves/


They are like a Charlie Hebdo, but for people who are not left-leaning lol

[duntez]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

Pipe down mister.

(hope you get that joke)

I don't doubt that there were some that preferred the Soviet times. I just know that like you and those that do, there are many who don't.

I was just curious about the timeframe you gave of some of Ukraine trying to break away from communism. I think it's a little longer for others that started the process the moment the Soviet Union broke apart. But I do realize that there are some that didn't necessarily want that.

Since 91 you can call it unofficial. And selfgoing, which I think is right. Nice and slow. But in 2015 or 2014 they enforced with the law and actually called it “decommunizasion”. Many people were for it, but many were against it, saying like “ok let’s decommunize all the factories too, all the power plants and buildings that were built, everything and start from the scratch etc.
Here is an article showing how society was devided.

https://ukraineworld.org/articles/re...-pros-and-cons

But to me, country will not have a future without accepting its past. Ukraine wasn’t occupied by SU, it was a part of it, and gained a lot out of this coalition with bunch of Ukrainians siting in high cabinets in Moscow and Kyev. Now there were dark pages ofc, but which country dosnt have those.

[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

Since 91 you can call it unofficial. And selfgoing, which I think is right. Nice and slow. But in 2015 or 2014 they enforced with the law and actually called it “decommunizasion”. Many people were for it, but many were against it, saying like “ok let’s decommunize all the factories too, all the power plants and buildings that were built, everything and start from the scratch etc.
Here is an article showing how society was devided.

https://ukraineworld.org/articles/re...-pros-and-cons

But to me, country will not have a future without accepting its past. Ukraine wasn’t occupied by SU, it was a part of it, and gained a lot out of this coalition with bunch of Ukrainians siting in high cabinets in Moscow and Kyev. Now there were dark pages ofc, but which country dosnt have those.

Ukraine wasn’t occupied by SU, it was a part of it

Hmm, from what parallel universe did you get that "fact" from ?
From Russian history books?

Go read about how Ukraine( or any other soviet state ) joined the "union".
Hint: in almost 100% of the cases, Russian tanks and soldiers are involved.

Ukraine was invaded by Russians and they fought years for their independence and only after losing, they were forced to give their independence to Russians.

The same shit happened to all the other states that "joined the union".
There was always an armed conflict, partisans fighting back, Russian threats of "we will destroy you if you don't surrender" and so on.
The Soviet Union wasn't a "union" like the European Union or The United states, where States agree to accept someone into the union on some conditions, and candidates apply to join after going through some vetting process.
The process of joining the Soviet "Union" was:
Russia: "Hey, look at all the tanks and soldiers amassed close to your border. Look at what we did to the neighboring country that reduced to join. Look at the army groups attacking your cities. Cool...eh? Now, let me ask you a question. Would you like to join our "union" under our rule? Think twice"
Any ex-soviet country: "Oh, if you put it that nicely, sure. We will give up the independence that our ancestors have fought for thousands of years...just because you are so nice.

The soviet union was just another name for the Russian occupation. Thats why the thing called "the iron curtain" was necessary. Thats why the Berlin wall was necessary.
Thats why people weren't allowed to leave the "union". Thats why any non-state information was banned. It was just like North Korea is now. Actually, North Korea simply remained what the Soviet "union" always was.


And lets debunk the shitty argument of:

Many people were for it, but many were against it, saying like “ok let’s decommunize all the factories too, all the power plants and buildings that were built

It keeps coming up one way or another. Usually...if the SU was so bad, then go and get rid of all the buildings built during that era too.
The answer to that is simple. Why should ex soviet countries get rid of the buildings built during the SU times? Would the ex-SU countries not have built homes/factories/power plants whilst being independent and open to western investments?
The answer is yes. ex-SU countries would have had more factories and powerplants built without being in the SU. Germany wasn't in the SU and it has factories. France wasn't in the SU and it has shit tons of nuclear power plants. The claim that "ex soviet countries owe their infrastructure" to the soviet union is just flat-out wrong. They would have had better infrastructure by this time without being occupied.

[Roosta]

Confirms that he's very challenged indeed !

[WonderMomma]

Click white arrow next to my name to see OP.

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

"Zelensky has arrived in Bulgaria. He will hold talks with the prime minister, president, government officials, parliamentarians, politicians, and talk to journalists.

The topics will include defense support, Ukraine's Euro-Atlantic integration, the NATO summit, security guarantees, and the implementation of the Peace Formula."

"Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister of Bulgaria Mariya Gabriel published a photo of Zelensky's meeting at the airport."

"Zelensky argues on camera with pro-Russian Bulgarian president about war

During the meeting of the delegations, Radev said that "there is no military solution" to the war in Ukraine and "more and more weapons will not solve the problem." In response, Zelensky asked what Bulgaria would do.

"You would say: "Putin, please, seize Bulgarian territory?" No, you will not compromise your independence. It's your right not to support aid to Ukraine. But I would really like you to understand me correctly," he said.

The Ukrainian president also criticized Radev for using the word "conflict" instead of "war" and rejected proposals for a "diplomatic settlement," explaining that military assistance to Kyiv is a better option.

"Ukraine and NATO must share common values. You cannot support Russia because Russia wants to destroy NATO and the EU. These are their goals. Do you understand me?" Zelensky summarized."

This clergyman is clearly angry with Ukraine. This video is from Zelenskyy's motorcade passing by in Bulgaria during his visit.

NOTE: I just want to say thank you to the DR member who contacted me via email and offered access to a powerful AI video translator. I'm just starting to use it so please bear with me as I learn how to use it and fine tune everything. I don't know your DR username but that's ok, just wanted to say again, thank you. If I can figure out how to use it effectively, I think it will be invaluable in posting this particular type of content.

I believe he says the name "Zelenskyy" in here a couple of times and it translates to a similar sounding name that starts with a "K"

Also, I had to look up "anathema".

anathema
ə-năth′ə-mə
noun

1. A formal ecclesiastical ban, curse, or excommunication.
2. A vehement denunciation; a curse.
3. One that is cursed or damned.

[Roosta]

Nut Job !