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#171
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10-14-2022, 10:18 AM
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Re: Russia/Ukraine War Mobilization, Protests & Sabotage Media
You missed the whole point of my post and jumped to some pre-determined answer. I said this "look, protests against nato" thing is russian propaganda. Not that it isnt real, but posting and spreading this is done by russian propaganda ministry - trying to show it as "support for russia" or "look, EU isnt really supporting Ukraine". I already said that French protest anything. I didnt say that they didn't protest or the protests were fake. They protested against covid too. My mother who is into all kinds of crazy conspiracy theories kept talkign about "look, millions of french are protesting against covid deaths and vaccines". I took a look in her FB page and it was clear where she got that crap from. Those people who protest have nothing to do with the topic of this thread and what Russia is doing to Ukraine. Putin is still a dictator. Russia is still a threat to world peace and Europe is still right to sanction Russia and minimize Russian energy consumption. Of course there are short sighted people who want quick and easy solutions to immediate problems at the expence of the future. Thats how you recognize a good democracy...everything is protested by some one. France has a population of 65 000 000. Few thousand people protesting is nothing...its expected. Noone likes higher prices or energy costs. |
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#174
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10-14-2022, 11:27 AM
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Re: Russia/Ukraine War Mobilization, Protests & Sabotage Media
This is ALL you had to say, without loud words of what is not allowed and Russia and what is in EU, how EU is better and so on. This videos IMO have a direct connections with what is going on. If there was no war in UA there would be little to none of them. They are connected. Besides, they are much bigger than the once’s pro west guys were posting here about Russia. I don’t remember anyone here saying… yeah, but it’s only a couple of thousands out of 150000000 mills. Posts were liked, commented on and laughed at. |
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#175
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10-14-2022, 12:09 PM
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Re: Russia/Ukraine War Mobilization, Protests & Sabotage Media
Yes, thats all i had to say. There is nothing special in those protest and neither is there anything special in those 2 guys screaming in the video above. Russian propaganda ministry makes a big deal out of protests in the west as if it somehow justifies their invasion and lifts the mood of their Führer and makes him think that "Well, looks like the west is about to crumble and give up. If only we can dragg this war out a few more years, they will stop supporting Ukraine and we can conquer the new lands " Also, the war in Ukraine is only one part of the inflation problem...perhaps even quite a small part in the western Europe and US, which are more distant. This inflation problem, and crumbling economy world wide is a result of 2 years of covid regulations which caused trillions of dollars of economic damage and a lot of uncertainty. It was then made worse by OPEC. Im just curious, what exactly was the reason for you to even bring up these protests? Was it somethign that you searched and found yourself...or was it something that "found its way into your social media" somehow? What was the reader of your post suppoesd to conclude? That people dont like higher prices? No shit, of course not. That people in the west actually support your Dictator? No...absolutely not. |
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#176
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10-14-2022, 12:16 PM
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Re: Russia/Ukraine War Mobilization, Protests & Sabotage Media
I take you think the western solution is "easy" in your oppinion? The west took the easy way out by commiting itself to years of war, economic downfall and personal sacrifices to stand against a dictator? The western solution looks far into the future...years and decades from now. Ignoring the invasion would have been easy. It would have taken no effort. This is what people should have done at the begining of the second world war, when Hitler started annexing its neighbouring territories. At the time, it were the shortsighted easy-solution'ists that caused the world war and gave the dictator what he wanted. If the west had ignored the Russian invasion, then it would have almost certainly guaranteed another, much larger invasion in the near future. Western reaction to Russian Dictator might have even persuaded China not to invade Taiwan...by showing that modern war is much more difficult than it seems. Anyways, if you support your Führer, then why are you here...on the web, and not fighting in the red army? |
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#177
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10-14-2022, 12:26 PM
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Re: Russia/Ukraine War Mobilization, Protests & Sabotage Media
Well, I have this crazy idea in my head that one of the ways war will end is with EU/NATO braking up or Russia breaking up into smaller states ( at least 3). So I’m watching peoples reactions on both sides. For EU it’s a prices for energy and everything that comes with it including factories not being able to work fully and so on. For Russia lack of progress last several months with casualties… who will snap first kind of thing |
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#180
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10-14-2022, 12:59 PM
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Re: Russia/Ukraine War Mobilization, Protests & Sabotage Media
Duntez immerses himself in pro Rus propaganda and those channels are looking to "win" the information war, at all costs. His reaction to even possible Russian war crimes is a big indication. Huge red flag. Anything, absolutely anything, to make it even appear that Russia has some sort of advantage is gold. Lies are fair game, it's how they operate. It's abundantly clear that Putin has almost no friends of substance outside of Russia - I actually feel a little bad occasionally for their staunch supporters, they're looking at this disaster of a war and desperately searching for "good" things to report. Doesn't matter if it's lies, it makes them feel better. Pathetic. Russians and pro-Russians years from now will wonder how they were duped and lied to for so long and still supported this insanity. No amount of media uploaded to the interwebs can change this, I'm quite frankly shocked pro-Russians even bother anymore. It can't be hid anymore. |