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Yeahprobably full mobilisation; any attack on Russian soil, be it crimea or former eastern Ukraine , will be met by declaration of war. Also if Ukraine dirty bombs any of the reactors
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Looks like he’s going to do it at 8pm Moscow time, which is in 30 mins
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Did I miss the nukes falling again?
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So some resources are saying that tonight President of RF and Minister of Defense of RF will address to the Russians with the speeche today I think they suppose to pass a bill about turms of mobilization during the times when RF in state of war/war conflict. Aaaaand President of Belorus ordered to check the status of mobilization of volunteers also of Belarus army

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I don't know. I could be wrong but I kind of doubt it... if he announces full mobilization, that's basically admitting to Russians that things have not gone well and they need to pour even more resources and manpower into this after extremely heavy casualties and equipment losses. Russians are largely now aware that this is a shit show and the government is not being honest with them about how much this is costing the country.

It's clear that Russia is having issues with operational tempo, planning, and equipping/training their soldiers as it is now. Announcing full mobilization would would add additional strain to an already hamstring'd system.

I forsee huge bottlenecks, extremely inadequate training and pulling more mothballed equipment from the corners of the federation. And I'm not even talking about morale which seems to be in the gutter, their existing units are over deployed and experiencing severe battle fatigue. I read the Russian Telegram channels and a lot of comments. A lot of people are not happy including ones that provide war footage and commentary.

On the other hand, Putin needs to do something. If he does nothing he'll be seen as weak and indecisive. Maybe he'll announce general mobilization and not much will come of it and propaganda dept will amp up the stories so he looks good and continue to make excuses and the blame game to explain setbacks.

Putin is the type to do damn near anything to stay in power but I don't see nukes happening. He's isolated Russia from the global stage and even China very recently has distanced itself from Russia.

Edit: But then again, if Putin just shams these referendums which he will surely do and then gets the "casus belli" for expanded mobilization, that will be his key to more troops under federal law. We will see.
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“If those regions vote to become Russia, then we will protect them as Russia. An attack on any of us is a declaration of war. The civil war against our brothers in the Donbas has been going on for too long. This aggression will end. I am hereby authorising the use of long range ballistic tactical nuclear weapons.”
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Declaration of war when you've already started one? I'd say there was a declaration of war February 24, 2022.

Russia: We can invade another country because we want their territory and resources. We'll use our pro and ethnic Russian population already in those territories to do it. Even though we hold a higher percentage of nationalist/far right population and even have many on payroll, we're using that as the excuse to invade to rid of a smaller percentage in Ukraine but pick and choose the Nazi's we say we're targeting. The pro-Russian Nazi's will be proxy Russian Army. We're not even going to acknowledge it for what it is, a war, and continue to cry victim about sanctions, travel bans, and the rest of the world conspiring against us.

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Declaration of war when you've already started one? I'd say there was a declaration of war February 24, 2022.

Russia: We can invade another country because we want their territory and resources. We'll use our pro and ethnic Russian population already in those territories to do it. Even though we hold a higher percentage of nationalist/far right population and even have many on payroll, we're using that as the excuse to invade to rid of a smaller percentage in Ukraine but pick and choose the Nazi's we say we're targeting. The pro-Russian Nazi's will be proxy Russian Army. We're not even going to acknowledge it for what it is, a war, and continue to cry victim about sanctions, travel bans, and the rest of the world conspiring against us.

Putin made his bed...
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