[Faust]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

I agree. Bad for everyone no matter the war's outcome.

As for your other thread's reply not trying to clog that place:

Why would Ukraine be more scared of inspectors into that plant.

And why would the Russians outside the plant not allow western media in into the plant with the inspectors. If they wanted to be cleared of wrongdoing why would they do that. Nothing to worry about then. That is, if that is what actually happened. We don't seem to have a lot of info on this.

Ukraine is not scared, but any plant visit destroys their narrative that the employees are tortured, not fed, killed, maimed and so on.

If the inspectors cannot reach or visit the plant, then Ukraine and the western media/ “global community” can claim anything they want.

So why would russia want inspectors at the plant visited? To show everything is working in order.
You will not see any news about the plant personnel being in good health. Whereas if there was any reason to assume the opposite, it would have been all over the news already.

Why would ukraine want to bomb the plant and destroy it?
Ukraine is losing a war. This is a last effort to get the world involved, it’s cutting off ones legs to save the rest of the body. Ukraine are fighting for survival, whereas its your narrative that russia just wants to shoot at civilians and gain more land, so yeah

[Faust]

According to multiple former senior U.S. officials we spoke with, in April 2022, Russian and Ukrainian negotiators appeared to have tentatively agreed on the outlines of a negotiated interim settlement: Russia would withdraw to its position on February 23, when it controlled part of the Donbas region and all of Crimea, and in exchange, Ukraine would promise not to seek NATO membership and instead receive security guarantees from a number of countries.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/russi...l-angela-stent

They should have taken the deal, even though the US would not give ukraine a single cent afterwards

[duntez]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

That is true I’ll give you that; I have seen most western movies

[duntez]

Originally Posted by SinisterNm ↗

dude, can you put the blatant bias aside for like 2 seconds. its getting painful. and don't give me any shit like im trying to pass this off as proof positive, its simply effort someone did to find more information.

What bias? Tell me what did I say wrong there? Even author of this video realized that he fucked it up. Now go back and read Chechnya post and tell me wether he presented that video as a proof or not..
why would I give you shit about proof or not proof when you didn’t presented as such?
Im posting the other side videos and jump in anytime I see clear Ukrainian/Western propaganda. I translate, I search and Im pretty sure I managed to if not completely change some people thoughts about this war but at least have a doubt about what’s going on.

[WhiskeyOutpost]

God this thread is such AIDS. We got topmost shelf pro Russia guy on here saying "what bias?"

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Faust, if you think Ukraine is losing, you're not paying attention. And you seemed to be asleep in history class, I'm not gonna hold your hand

[duntez]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

God this thread is such AIDS. We got we topmost shelf pro Russia guy on here saying "what bias?"

Stop bitching man up already

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

Stop bitching man up already

Sorry, I'm allergic to people who can't admit to what they are

[duntez]

That’s sad Just keep in mind when ur allergic to something it’s only your problem but not of something ur allergic to.

[chechnya]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

What bias? Tell me what did I say wrong there? Even author of this video realized that he fucked it up. Now go back and read Chechnya post and tell me wether he presented that video as a proof or not..
why would I give you shit about proof or not proof when you didn’t presented as such?
Im posting the other side videos and jump in anytime I see clear Ukrainian/Western propaganda. I translate, I search and Im pretty sure I managed to if not completely change some people thoughts about this war but at least have a doubt about what’s going on.

None of your explanations make sense. It's the same narrative Russia pushes. Deny, blame others, dodge responsibility. Ukraine is fighting tooth and nail for every spec of land currently occupied by Russia. Why would Ukraine shell Europe's largest nuclear power plant? It would essentially render large areas of Ukraine uninhabitable for millennia if a disaster happened.

What makes more sense? Russia trying to control European energy. They cut gas to Europe, so now their largest nuclear power plant is next. There's no reason for those terrorist scum to hijack and set up shop in a nuclear power plant.

Do you not remember when Russia activity attacked Zaporizhzhia when they first invaded? Russia is the one who delayed IAEA from visiting in the first place. The power plant was operating just fine before it was taken over.

No one's ever posted a legitimate, coherent or logical reason as to why Russia is waging war.