[Faust]

Nato and USA could not even take Syria, nor Vietnam, or all those other countries

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Originally Posted by ente17 ↗

There's a separate UK/RU thread where you can vent your feelings.

This is literally the “Russian/Ukrain War Discussion/thoughts Thread”. I think I’m in the right thread.

[textex]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Nato and USA could not even take Syria, nor Vietnam, or all those other countries

Did US make any attempts at to even "take" those countries? During Vietnam, the US was mostly busy with defending the Southern part if I remember correctly. What is more interesting is the reason why they lost, one reason was certainly unacceptable losses, another one was protests and stuff at home. Certainly show that it is harder to wage a unjust war in western democracies with free speech and media, than in a country such as Russia.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by textex ↗

Did US make any attempts at to even "take" those countries? During Vietnam, the US was mostly busy with defending the Southern part if I remember correctly. What is more interesting is the reason why they lost, one reason was certainly unacceptable losses, another one was protests and stuff at home. Certainly show that it is harder to wage a unjust war in western democracies with free speech and media, than in a country such as Russia.

Even our western media published proudly how many foreign billions of dollars and euros in weapons were sent to Ukraine. They also showed on tv their leader discussion nucleair weapons as well as their leader banning and arresting opposition and also the Russian language.
And they showed with great pride the military training of foreign agents in Ukraine.

To all analysts and strategists this war was totally reactionary and understandable.

That does not make it right. No human should ever suffer. But academics long predicted what was going to happen. Russia believes that they can get those republics and some harbours not to mention reassure Crimea.

Your media and governments will claim that Russia wanted to take all of Ukraine and thus having failed at that and they retreated while only keeping very few strategic areas that Ukraine didn’t even care about.

Just so that we can all sleep right

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So many armchair experts, lol.

[dvdkm7]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Nato and USA could not even take Syria, nor Vietnam, or all those other countries

Where are you from? Your knowledge of the history is so stunted, I wonder about your age or place of origin. Are you Chinese?

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Originally Posted by dvdkm7 ↗

Where are you from? Your knowledge of the history is so stunted, I wonder about your age or place of origin. Are you Chinese?

Wtf did Chinese do to you man?

[textex]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Even our western media published proudly how many foreign billions of dollars and euros in weapons were sent to Ukraine. They also showed on tv their leader discussion nucleair weapons as well as their leader banning and arresting opposition and also the Russian language.
And they showed with great pride the military training of foreign agents in Ukraine.

To all analysts and strategists this war was totally reactionary and understandable.

That does not make it right. No human should ever suffer. But academics long predicted what was going to happen. Russia believes that they can get those republics and some harbours not to mention reassure Crimea.

Your media and governments will claim that Russia wanted to take all of Ukraine and thus having failed at that and they retreated while only keeping very few strategic areas that Ukraine didn’t even care about.

Just so that we can all sleep right

They did indeed retreat from the western parts, and Putin and Russian media/Putin did indicate they wanted more in the start. Considering the casualties they have taken they have met a lot more resistance than expected, and Putin has probably learned the cons of having a bunch of corrupt yes-men around him in terms of morale and equipment in the Russian military.

Putin is probably a pragmatist as well, so I won't be surprised if some of what you say turns out to be the end-game.

[textex]

Originally Posted by silver bullet ↗

In this conflict Ukraine civilian casualties are less than 2,000 confirmed by everyone. That’s very telling of the kind of military operation the Russians are fighting, one that is very humane and doesn’t obliterate anything that moves.

Lol, have you seen Mariupol? Get Putins cock out of your mouth you propagandist cunt.

Russia is fighting a evil retarded war. Today they lost their flagship Moskva to a country without a navy

[textex]

Originally Posted by silver bullet ↗

Please quote facts and not opinions if you want to step into a debate. Throwing cheap insults just makes you look weak dude.

Stop being so salty, stop clogging up this thread with nonsense and PM me if you want a free education. Peace!

You should start with facts yourself. Calling Russian a humane nation after what they did in Bucha, Mariupol, etc. The confirmed civilian casualties doesn't matter very much considering the Russkis doesn't allow anyone to count in many of the cities they occupy.

And no thanks, I do not need a free education from a guy that registered here when the invasion started, and seem to only post pro-russki shit. You're either an asshole, or Russian/both.