[duntez]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

No nukes. That shit is just crazy.

But Russia made their bed, they have to lie in it now. Stop attacking countries.

To me it’s just another fact proving how hypocritical west is. While we pay you for your gas in rubbles and pay for your other goods, we will block your enclave, so you couldn’t delivery provision there. Lithuanians deff are not the smartest out there

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

To me it’s just another fact proving how hypocritical west is. While we pay you for your gas in rubbles and pay for your other goods, we will block your enclave, so you couldn’t delivery provision there. Lithuanians deff are not the smartest out there

I would wager it's a bit more complicated than that..... and Lithuania can do what they want to do, they don't need overarching NATO support to do that

[duntez]

They can do w/e they want, but by doing things like that they’re deff bringing Nuke exchanges closer then we hoped it would be
BTW didn’t have a time to check it but Lithuania flames that they had a meeting with EU about this matter and they did it because their plan was approved. But once done EU said they had nothing to do with it. Again not sure how legit this info is

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

They can do w/e they want, but by doing things like that they’re deff bringing Nuke exchanges closer then we hoped it would be
BTW didn’t have a time to check it but Lithuania flames that they had a meeting with EU about this matter and they did it because their plan was approved. But once done EU said they had nothing to do with it. Again not sure how legit this info is

The people who started this insanity are in Russia. Like I said they made their bed and now they need to lie in it.

If nukes start flying it will come from Russia first, that much is abundantly clear. But it won't come to that because even Putin knows better. Hypothetically if that button is pushed, Russia will be in ashes. It will cease to exist and its population centers will be destroyed and irradiated for generations along with whoever they shot at most likely.

"Russia" would exist solely in the hearts and minds of people who once lived there.

I don't want that. But Putin has a long laundry list of military threats and lies that he seldom follows up on. He's bluffing because he has little recourse to get what he wants. He wants Europe and the US back down, which they likely won't. This is 100% Putin's doing and if he's having trouble getting what he wants, which he is, he'll have to find alternative methods to nukes. He's a morally bankrupt sociopath who deserves nothing more than an unmarked grave or a prison cell for life.

[duntez]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

The people who started this insanity are in Russia. Like I said they made their bed and now they need to lie in it.

If nukes start flying it will come from Russia first, that much is abundantly clear. But it won't come to that because even Putin knows better. Hypothetically if that button is pushed, Russia will be in ashes. It will cease to exist and its population centers will be destroyed and irradiated for generations along with whoever they shot at most likely.

"Russia" would exist solely in the hearts and minds of people who once lived there.

I don't want that. But Putin has a long laundry list of military threats and lies that he seldom follows up on. He's bluffing because he has little recourse to get what he wants. He wants Europe and the US back down, which they likely won't. This is 100% Putin's doing and if he's having trouble getting what he wants, which he is, he'll have to find alternative methods to nukes. He's a morally bankrupt sociopath who deserves nothing more than an unmarked grave or a prison cell for life.

Every conflict has room for escalation and Lithuania did just that. Why provoke? Especially when it comes down to Putin.

[wecefrsec]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

Every conflict has room for escalation and Lithuania did just that. Why provoke? Especially when it comes down to Putin.

Baltics want a taste of Russian blood too. It's time we pay back for hundred years of oppression.

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

Every conflict has room for escalation and Lithuania did just that. Why provoke? Especially when it comes down to Putin.

Because it will hurt Russia's war effort.

As for stolen grain, why provoke the world and use hunger as a bargaining tool? Sick shit and you know it

[Daujotis]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

No nukes. That shit is just crazy.

But Russia made their bed, they have to lie in it now. Stop attacking countries.

I am sorry, but in my personal opinion you sir are delusional, it’s literally NATO vs Russia and Russia chose place of battle - not their soil, majority of NATO members openly send military equipment.

Now let’s agree on one thing - we’re all indoctrinated by media we watch in one way or another, they carefully choose what we’re allowed to see.

Now comes the facts: since 1949 NATO expanded towards east, towards Russia and not the other way around, that’s not my opinion, that’s a fact, putting military equipment, men power, military bases closer and closer to Russia, war was inevitable, and once again, the only thing Russia did was a choice where to fight.

If Russia falls we all know what NATO will attack next - China. So US trying to weaken Russia by using Europe, Russia trying to weaken Europe as well for the big boys to fight in the end US vs China, currently both sides loosing man power and equipment while big boys sit back and watch - but yet again, this is only my opinion, but I guess we’ll see it for ourselves in upcoming 10 years.

[GlowingGhoul]

Originally Posted by Daujotis ↗

I am sorry, but in my personal opinion you sir are delusional, it’s literally NATO vs Russia and Russia chose place of battle - not their soil, majority of NATO members openly send military equipment.

Now let’s agree on one thing - we’re all indoctrinated by media we watch in one way or another, they carefully choose what we’re allowed to see.

Now comes the facts: since 1949 NATO expanded towards east, towards Russia and not the other way around, that’s not my opinion, that’s a fact, putting military equipment, men power, military bases closer and closer to Russia, war was inevitable, and once again, the only thing Russia did was a choice where to fight.

If Russia falls we all know what NATO will attack next - China. So US trying to weaken Russia by using Europe, Russia trying to weaken Europe as well for the big boys to fight in the end US vs China, currently both sides loosing man power and equipment while big boys sit back and watch - but yet again, this is only my opinion, but I guess we’ll see it for ourselves in upcoming 10 years.

Don't bother. Whiskey knows full well Russia, in the long term, will only gain from this as they did with Crimea.

He pretends Ukraine is capable of militarily defeating Russia because his intellectual dishonesty knows no bounds.

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Nope daujotis, not having it. You should know better to perform mental gymnastics. Yes NATO has expanded and Russia is losing key territory in the grand scheme, largely because they are backwards, were hamstrung by losing the cold war and are generally incompatible with the the modern world. This is a common thing with Russia/Soviet Union.

I'm not saying "the west" is so much morally better (they're not) but Russia really takes the whole morally bankrupt approach and really rolls with it at all times. They have information locked down tighter than any western nation, this is what dictatorships do. This is not helping them and their whole "return to glory" endeavor.

Russia miscalculated, are making a mistake and they're reaping the consequences, as they should. And unfortunately everyday Russians are paying for it.