|
#2281
●
08-07-2022, 10:28 PM
| ||||||||
 ★ Legacy Member ★ Poster Rank:324 Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 3,938 Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Quoted: 1971 Post(s)
| ||||||||
|
Re: Russia/Ukraine War Discussion/thoughts Thread
Well, I wasn’t thinking about WO to be honest, rather about stolen valor thing and the fact that you need to deserve that before wearing that. I know we r not in some army forum, but still I respect that. I also respect when enemy respect their enemies bravery and willingness to give up their life’s for something they believe in. You can hate a person for what he is, but you can’t not to recognize his sacrifices |
|
#2282
●
08-08-2022, 02:23 AM
| ||||||||
 ♚ Legacy Gold Member ♚ Poster Rank:69 Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 22,271 Mentioned: 77 Post(s) Quoted: 11654 Post(s)
| ||||||||
|
Re: Russia/Ukraine War Discussion/thoughts Thread
To quote John Rambo: “live for something, or die for nothing”. If I believed that races should not mix, that Jews are the devil and whatnot. Would I go to a warzone because of my LGHBTBQ+ BLM government and president, to fight for a country where the commander in chief literally is a Jew billionaire? Also I am not getting paid. Would you still respect that? |
|
#2283
●
08-08-2022, 03:38 AM
| ||||||||
| ★ Legacy Member ★ Poster Rank:324 Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 3,938 Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Quoted: 1971 Post(s)
| ||||||||
|
Re: Russia/Ukraine War Discussion/thoughts Thread
That’s absolutely not what I had in mind when I made that post. Political, religious etc questions going straight to the dumpster. I was talking about battle field only. Here is the example I have posted here - 2 Ukr guys got ambushed, trying to retreat. One guy got wounded and the other didn’t leave him behind. He dragged him across the battle field, while shooting back at the enemy, eventually got hit himself and most likely died sooner then his brother in arms. He could survive maybe, by leaving his pal behind, by taking a better position or run away. Maybe that guy was a NAZI, but in this moment I did pay my respect to him. What he did was highest sacrifice there is. It’s underlines his values and his choices on this very moment and I can’t do nothing but feel bad for him and if I was one of those enemy soldiers I would make sure to bury him with honor.
|
|
#2284
●
08-08-2022, 03:57 AM
| ||||||||
| ♚ Legacy Gold Member ♚ Poster Rank:69 Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 22,271 Mentioned: 77 Post(s) Quoted: 11654 Post(s)
| ||||||||
|
Re: Russia/Ukraine War Discussion/thoughts Thread
Yeah I agree with that. It’s just that it seems so pointless. I understand the romantic aspect of war, sure, but I’d rather have my death means something. Still, I agree with your perspective
|
|
#2285
●
08-08-2022, 04:14 AM
| ||||||||
 ♚ Legacy Gold Member ♚ Poster Rank:207 Former US Soldier Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 7,267 Mentioned: 65 Post(s) Quoted: 3248 Post(s)
| ||||||||
|
Re: Russia/Ukraine War Discussion/thoughts Thread
Hats off to duntez on this. Respectful.
|
|
#2286
●
08-08-2022, 04:16 AM
| ||||||||
| ★ Legacy Member ★ Poster Rank:324 Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 3,938 Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Quoted: 1971 Post(s)
| ||||||||
|
Re: Russia/Ukraine War Discussion/thoughts Thread
I agree, but if you happened to live in the country where there is a war and ended up being a soldier voluntarily or not, then you might don’t have a choice
|
|
#2288
●
08-08-2022, 11:52 AM
| ||||||||
| ♚ Legacy Gold Member ♚ Poster Rank:207 Former US Soldier Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 7,267 Mentioned: 65 Post(s) Quoted: 3248 Post(s)
| ||||||||
|
Re: Russia/Ukraine War Discussion/thoughts Thread
Because you're Scottish. I really don't get why you keep misrepresenting what I've said in the past. I've never said that. I know there's some Nazis in Ukraine and I've acknowledged this on multiple occasions. |
|
#2290
●
08-08-2022, 03:49 PM
| ||||||||
| ♚ Legacy Gold Member ♚ Poster Rank:207 Former US Soldier Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 7,267 Mentioned: 65 Post(s) Quoted: 3248 Post(s)
| ||||||||
|
Re: Russia/Ukraine War Discussion/thoughts Thread
Good question. I'm not even sure I have a clear answer for that. If we're talking about fascists who have particularly strong pro-white racial beliefs, that's one thing and in that sense it's clear there's some of those in Ukraine. But they don't seem to occupy positions of legislative power in the Ukranian government, they are concentrated in specific military units and nationalist groups. A few of those nationalist groups later became a part of the Ukranian military, because despite their beliefs (which don't sit well with many Ukranians) their skills are needed. Correct me if I'm wrong Boneface.
|
