[Daujotis]

Originally Posted by textex ↗

Everybody knows Russia invaded certain Ukrainian territories in 2014. If you don't know that you must either be a dirty Russian, or be mentally retarded (if there is any difference). Which one is it?

You have quite loud mouth for someone who knows so little. Let’s wind back, shall we, maidan - Ukraine overthrew president by force, killed thousands of their own, burned people alive in Odessa, then turned to Russian populated regions, shelled them, 14 thousand died (I think, not sure of exact number), please, do tell me how many died over annexation of crimea? :-D

And after all of this, Ukraine continued shelling those regions and arming themselves up to this very day. This conflict is very deep and there are many opinions, but please stop tuning your mouth when you don’t know nothing, I live near Ukraine.

[RIL]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

There should probably be some bellingcat twitter post about an intercepted Russian phone call on social media about generals congratulating each other about killing civilians? Not that I have seen it but this is the kind of proof we have come to expect these days

Just would think there was definite evidence by now.. sorry

[textex]

Originally Posted by Daujotis ↗

You have quite loud mouth for someone who knows so little. Let’s wind back, shall we, maidan - Ukraine overthrew president by force, killed thousands of their own, burned people alive in Odessa, then turned to Russian populated regions, shelled them, 14 thousand died (I think, not sure of exact number), please, do tell me how many died over annexation of crimea? :-D

And after all of this, Ukraine continued shelling those regions and arming themselves up to this very day. This conflict is very deep and there are many opinions, but please stop tuning your mouth when you don’t know nothing, I live near Ukraine.

Ukraine didn't overthrow their president by force. They started peaceful protests, and he used terrible force against them. Not a good situation that governments end like that, but still the presidents own fault considering how he dealt with it. In the end, he fled to hits buddy in Russia.

They shelled against Donetsk, etc. after Putin invaded with his friends in 2014.

Putin had no business invading Ukraine whatsoever. If he felt the government there did something wrong to Russians, he should have taken it to the UN.

[textex]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

There should probably be some bellingcat twitter post about an intercepted Russian phone call on social media about generals congratulating each other about killing civilians? Not that I have seen it but this is the kind of proof we have come to expect these days

Thats so funny with you guys. You make up moronic stories like that, when there are much .

[Faust]

Originally Posted by textex ↗

Thats so funny with you guys. You make up moronic stories like that, when there are much .

British reporter:
“So Saddam, you are claiming there are no weapons of mass destruction in your country, YET our images show many weapons of mas destructions, sir how do you sleep at night?”

[textex]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

British reporter:
“So Saddam, you are claiming there are no weapons of mass destruction in your country, YET our images show many weapons of mas destructions, sir how do you sleep at night?”

Oh, so when your fake story gets disproven you just make up another fake story. Hope it gets you trough your day, misfit.

[WhiskeyOutpost]

It seems to be forgotten that Putin has said in the past that Ukraine and Russia have extremely close ties and that Ukraine "isn't a real country". It's clear that he believes the two should be one country. But he invades because of "drug addicts and Nazis". Yeah, okay Vladimir. Because he knows the real reason isn't justifiable and somehow thinks the latter is.

I also get the impression that certain people in this forum are anti-Ukraine because CNN/MSNBC/other liberal sources are singing their praises. Which is a shitty reason to be stubborn about evaluating the accuracy of information, and I'm even a conservative. The main stream media has lost a lot of credibility (deservedly) in the past decade especially, but even a broken clock is right two times a day. Putin and his Soviet lackeys are animals and need to be stopped.

I would love to see his ass arraigned at the Hague but we all know that's extremely unlikely. If he goes down, it's going to be because his own countrymen hunted him down like a dog. And Putin has no shortage of enemies, he's pissed off a huge amount of Russians even before this invasion.

[duntez]

Originally Posted by textex ↗

Ukraine didn't overthrow their president by force. They started peaceful protests, and he used terrible force against them. Not a good situation that governments end like that, but still the presidents own fault considering how he dealt with it. In the end, he fled to hits buddy in Russia.

They shelled against Donetsk, etc. after Putin invaded with his friends in 2014.

Putin had no business invading Ukraine whatsoever. If he felt the government there did something wrong to Russians, he should have taken it to the UN.

Ofcause they did wtf. Did you forget and you never knew that opposition and Yanukovich set at the table and agreed to stop the madness. President agreed for an earlier presidential elections to elect the new president and to stay by doing so within constitution of UA. After that agreement he went to Kharkiv. Once Yanukovich left, opposition took over the parliament and presidential office. Pretty much broke their promise from the get go. I think they took over on feb 21st and only after that, 3 days later, president left the country. He is a traitor, but he was overthrown, And that agreement was sealed by some euro countries, don’t remember who exactly but I think it’s was France/Germany/Poland and it’s funny how on the very next day opposition broke their word and took over the government by force, this countries kept silence.HA!

[duntez]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

Sure, NATO can be used for malicious purposes if the circumstances are right. But do you honestly think this is what is happening right now? Normally I'm the guy who says fuck the government, and especially a world government. But NATO at least on paper exists for this very reason - the only exception is that Ukraine isn't a NATO or EU member but they're a reasonably developed country with strong ties to Europe.

Russia outright invaded a sovereign country for demonstrably ridiculous reasons. If a 3rd world shithole invades another no one really gives a shit not because they aren't white but because those countries are typically a never-ending revolving door of crippling poverty, nonexistent economies and dictatorships. Georgia was invaded by Russia and the world pretty much didn't do shit. Tell me those people aren't white (they are). Watch what happens when China invades Taiwan, we'll be assisting Taiwan with stuff that will hurt the Chinese, regardless of who's our President.

Sanctions - sanctioning a shithole country? Sanctioning a leader who likely has little if any actual control over their country? Are you going to sanction each tribe and faction by name who live in mud huts and shit in ditches? Tell them they can't buy iPhones anymore and can't make SWIFT payments? These countries' economies are already garbage and lots of them don't even have a solid, single national identity and a good deal of their "economies" rely on in-country black markets supplied by smugglers.

1. Gulf war 90-91. Shit hole Iraq invaded even more shit holed Kuwait… they r not even white and US had to stick their noise right in between Oil rigs.
2. When president of Georgia was Shevardnadze and they had a conflict there, both sides of the conflict decided to have Russian peace keepers. Peace keepers will get legitimate stay ONLY if approved by two sides of conflict and then by UN Security Council. Both of this laws were in place and Russian peace keepers stayed there for 30 years. Until very morning of 2008 when GERGIAN president Saakashville after years of reciaving NATO equipment and ammunition ( SURPRIIISE) have decided he’s ready to take Ossetia back. They shelled the shit out of Chinval the capitol of Ossetia and killed somewhere between 10-20 Russian piece keepers. Well fuck , Russia said - ok fuck boy, here we are and raped Georgian army in a few days. US would do the same I bet ya. Nato or US didn’t do shit for two reasons In my opinion- war was too short and second, even with massive propaganda that Russia invaded Georgia, they still knew that their puppet Saakashville went waaay too far by killing Russians soldiers overthere. So STFU with Russia invaded Georgia… this western narrative got out of hand long time ago.
3. Sanctions… wtf r u talking about

[obliterate800]

Thoughts on Bucha? I think the Ukes killed anyone that even let a Russian use their bathroom and are trying to pin it on the Russians. It has all the markings of an Eastern Europe false flag event. I want to hear your opinions.