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08-10-2024, 10:59 PM
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Re: ISRAEL/PALESTINE/IRAN/LEBANON Conflict Discussion Thread VI (2024)
Interesting report: Under US pressure, Pakistan mobilized a Sunni militia to slaughter an Iran-sponsored Shiite brigade and its leadership stationed in Pakistan. |
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08-11-2024, 12:02 AM
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Re: ISRAEL/PALESTINE/IRAN/LEBANON Conflict Discussion Thread VI (2024)
Drones attack US base in Syria 10 Aug 2024 Syrian media reported that 3 unmanned aerial vehicles were launched near the border towards the American air base Kharab al-Jir in the Haska district in eastern Syria. According to the report, one UAV was shot down and two exploded in the area of the base and caused a fire. According to unofficial American sources, there were no casualties in the attack. |
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08-17-2024, 11:37 AM
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Hamas announced they shot 3 hostages. One male hostage is claimed to be dead. Two female hostages are claimed to be seriously wounded. They will try to save their life (they say). According to the Hamas spokesman, frustrated guards shot the hostages without clearance. Al Qassam spokesman Abu Obaida says IDF is responsible cause of the latest strike against a Gazan school. 31 Hamas and PIJ terrorists were reportedly killed, as IDF struck three rooms of that school with precision ordnance. Among them 2 very high ranking terrorist leaders. Bottom line: Its a bs story, meant to be as threat to stop killing of Hamas/PIJ leaders. Soon after Hamas channels published this pic of a dead Israeli body. It turned out to be Ofir Tzarfati. Abducted already as dead body from the Nova Festival onslaught at Oct 7th. Recycled footage indicates what I wrote above. Nothing happened, just a threat to bring hostages into play... Vid: Hizbollah threatening Israel with a new propaghanda vid, revealing a huge underground missile city. Demonstrate how missile trucks get into firing position inside these tunnels. |
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08-17-2024, 03:15 PM
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i have been watching the Palestine conflict vids. but i am still unsure why most Americans think it is okay to shoot an intruder in one's home, yet they go mad when Palestinians shoot people in an illegal settlement on their land. i fail to see the difference? these settlements are illegal in international law, one isn't supposed to steal land then fortify and live in it. so why the moral difference? i am not particularly supportive of either side, i just wondered why this is the case?
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08-17-2024, 07:16 PM
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I will step out on that ledge with you, I am pro-Israel but I am anti-Netanyahu for a lot of reasons, one being his stance and support of the illegal settlements on Palestinian lands.
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08-17-2024, 09:00 PM
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It is my understanding that the assignment of Israel land to Arabs was due to misguided modern war treaties that were imposed upon Israel after Israel won numerous wars in the past 100 years. Why should war losers get awarded independent states within the conquering nation, I don't get that? Sounds like a recipe for more war. Voilà, that's exactly what happened, over and over again, in Israel. Not only are those treaties questionable for reasons of Israeli national sovereignty, but they have been made illegitimate by the repeated use of those "Arab-assigned territories" for milops against Israel. Certainly the assignment of land to Arabs was contingent upon the Arabs ceasing their attacks upon Israelis. |
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08-18-2024, 04:43 AM
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give arabs a quarter and they will bite off the whole hand. Unless you lived around them, it will be difficult to understand. One must see the hatred in their eyes. Palestine is a newly established arab "nationality" essentially from 1967, when arab states realised they lost against Israel but must keep the fire of hatred burning. Almost all car jackings, burglaries and thefts are typically committed by arabs both inside israel and in "settlement" areas Fanatical jews are not angels either but if arabs do not touch them they keep to themselves. in the end the conflict is not really about land but about Islam vs none believers allowing Jews to dominate is haram and jihad worthy. after Saturday comes Sunday. |
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08-18-2024, 10:00 AM
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Its not their land anymore. Palestine, as we understand it today, is an invention from the late 1960ties. In fact there never has been an arab country with that referrence. In ancient times the region was devided between major powers of the Bronze Age. After their chaotic collapse, independant smaller entities seized power of that region. To explain it the easy way: The first Kingdom of Israel was one of those newly emerged powers. Since these times (1100/1000 BC) jews were documented there. As new super powers emerged during the upcoming Iron Age (Assyrians, Babyloanians, Persians, Hellinic kingdoms, Romans), the Holy land came under foreign rule again. Except for brief periods, jews had to live under foreign rule, they rebelled alot to regain their Kingdom. The last rebellion (some years after 130 AD or something) was the "Bar Kochba" one, named after the jewish leader Simon Bar Kochba. It was especially devastating, since after years of fighting and several jewish rebellions, Romans made a point. Alot Jews were massacred or enslaved. Finally the province got a new name: From old "Judea" to "Palestine". From my understanding thats where the term Palestine is originating to. Just an old Roman referrence to mock the Jews. Fast Forward. There never had been an independant state in the holy land. The whole region was dominated by certain powers over centuries, several wars and world wars. The old Roman name Palestine somehow remained. Last was the British Mandate of Palestine, which lasted up to 1948. The Mandate was more or less what we know today as Jordan + Modern Israel. Jews always were talented and well connected into western politics. As the Brits disengaged, they managed to finally get their own state via that UN plan. Jews immeadetly accepted the UN resolution. Arabs, which were supposed to get the larger part of the Holy Land, did not accept and waged war. They wanted all for themselves :) Arabs lost. Lost again. And again. And again. While modern Israel is a legal state, full member of UN, Palestinian Arabs are still nothing. The winner takes it all. Especially if its a defensive war. Thats how it works. Arabs should have accepted the UN plan from 1948 to get their own Palestinean state. But they didn't. |
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08-18-2024, 09:56 PM
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Re: ISRAEL/PALESTINE/IRAN/LEBANON Conflict Discussion Thread VI (2024)
Two new Israeli navy ships enter operations. The landing craft is a vessel capable of transporting heavy cargo and landing it on the beach, without the need for a port.
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