[akyan]

...... cuz there's no genocide to deny.... so your genocide promoting face can watch this video on how to convince use logical people.

[Rfneimad]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Would you like to share any of your “really odd fantasies about what actually happens”?

I dont fantasize about such things, after the war is over lets revisit this genocide claim. Until then, all this is is mental masturbation.

[Faust]

The Chamber found reasonable grounds to believe that during the relevant time, international humanitarian law related to international armed conflict between Israel and Palestine applied. This is because they are two High Contracting Parties to the 1949 Geneva Conventions and because Israel occupies at least parts of Palestine. The Chamber also found that the law related to non-international armed conflict applied to the fighting between Israel and Hamas. The Chamber found that the alleged conduct of Mr Netanyahu and Mr Gallant concerned the activities of Israeli government bodies and the armed forces against the civilian population in Palestine, more specifically civilians in Gaza. It therefore concerned the relationship between two parties to an international armed conflict, as well as the relationship between an occupying power and the population in occupied territory. For these reasons, with regards to war crimes, the Chamber found it appropriate to issue the arrest warrants pursuant to the law of international armed conflict. The Chamber also found that the alleged crimes against humanity were part of a widespread and systematic attack against the civilian population of Gaza.

The Chamber considered that there are reasonable grounds to believe that both individuals intentionally and knowingly deprived the civilian population in Gaza of objects indispensable to their survival, including food, water, and medicine and medical supplies, as well as fuel and electricity, from at least 8 October 2023 to 20 May 2024. This finding is based on the role of Mr Netanyahu and Mr Gallant in impeding humanitarian aid in violation of international humanitarian law and their failure to facilitate relief by all means at its disposal. The Chamber found that their conduct led to the disruption of the ability of humanitarian organisations to provide food and other essential goods to the population in need in Gaza. The aforementioned restrictions together with cutting off electricity and reducing fuel supply also had a severe impact on the availability of water in Gaza and the ability of hospitals to provide medical care.

The Chamber also noted that decisions allowing or increasing humanitarian assistance into Gaza were often conditional. They were not made to fulfil Israel’s obligations under international humanitarian law or to ensure that the civilian population in Gaza would be adequately supplied with goods in need. In fact, they were a response to the pressure of the international community or requests by the United States of America. In any event, the increases in humanitarian assistance were not sufficient to improve the population’s access to essential goods.

Furthermore, the Chamber found reasonable grounds to believe that no clear military need or other justification under international humanitarian law could be identified for the restrictions placed on access for humanitarian relief operations. Despite warnings and appeals made by, inter alia, the UN Security Council, UN Secretary General, States, and governmental and civil society organisations about the humanitarian situation in Gaza, only minimal humanitarian assistance was authorised. In this regard, the Chamber considered the prolonged period of deprivation and Mr Netanyahu’s statement connecting the halt in the essential goods and humanitarian aid with the goals of war.

The Chamber therefore found reasonable grounds to believe that Mr Netanyahu and Mr Gallant bear criminal responsibility for the war crime of starvation as a method of warfare.

The Chamber found that there are reasonable grounds to believe that the lack of food, water, electricity and fuel, and specific medical supplies, created conditions of life calculated to bring about the destruction of part of the civilian population in Gaza, which resulted in the death of civilians, including children due to malnutrition and dehydration. On the basis of material presented by the Prosecution covering the period until 20 May 2024, the Chamber could not determine that all elements of the crime against humanity of extermination were met. However, the Chamber did find that there are reasonable grounds to believe that the crime against humanity of murder was committed in relation to these victims.

In addition, by intentionally limiting or preventing medical supplies and medicine from getting into Gaza, in particular anaesthetics and anaesthesia machines, the two individuals are also responsible for inflicting great suffering by means of inhumane acts on persons in need of treatment. Doctors were forced to operate on wounded persons and carry out amputations, including on children, without anaesthetics, and/or were forced to use inadequate and unsafe means to sedate patients, causing these persons extreme pain and suffering. This amounts to the crime against humanity of other inhumane acts.

The Chamber also found reasonable grounds to believe that the abovementioned conduct deprived a significant portion of the civilian population in Gaza of their fundamental rights, including the rights to life and health, and that the population was targeted based on political and/or national grounds. It therefore found that the crime against humanity of persecution was committed.

Finally, the Chamber assessed that there are reasonable grounds to believe that Mr Netanyahu and Mr Gallant bear criminal responsibility as civilian superiors for the war crime of intentionally directing attacks against the civilian population of Gaza. In this regard, the Chamber found that the material provided by the Prosecution only allowed it to make findings on two incidents that qualified as attacks that were intentionally directed against civilians. Reasonable grounds to believe exist that Mr Netanyahu and Mr Gallant, despite having measures available to them to prevent or repress the commission of crimes or ensure the submittal of the matter to the competent authorities, failed to do so.

https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/situati...els-challenges

[Faust]

Also: https://www.un.org/en/genocidepreven...20Genocide.pdf

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with
intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as
such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

The bolded part is for an argument which was made a few days ago that not all Palestinians are being exterminated

[akyan]

So if a drunk driver hit a van full of Palestinians, and killed some of them.... then he makes bail, gets drunk and hit another car full of Palestinians and killed some of them, because he persistently killed members of a certain group, he is now committing genocide. He is not a drunken idiot or murderer depends on state law on drunk driving. He is a genocidal terrorist....

On a side note, a friend of mine told me about Israeli killing their own civilians conspiracy on Oct 7.

I watched multiple people talk about it on youtube... anyone believing that bullshit is fucked in the head. I'm done trying to use logic to even argue the absurdity of it all.

Also ICC can suck my dick if they think they can pressure any country to arrest any 1st world leader during a state visit, mind as well declare war. ICC is a impotent organization kind of like the UN. Wtf are you going to do with no first world countries backing you?

[Faust]

Jewish citizens and Jewish journalists claim in Jewish newspapers that Israel killed a large number of their own citizens on October 7:

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...1-fdbe45520000

https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/yokra13754368

[Rfneimad]

Anyways this is pointless, this war is about smart people and stupid people and neither side can understand one another.

[houseoftechno]

Canuck protesters reenact Sinwar's final moments. A little disappointing - it seems they left off the ending scene.

[akyan]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Jewish citizens and Jewish journalists claim in Jewish newspapers that Israel killed a large number of their own citizens on October 7:

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...1-fdbe45520000

https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/yokra13754368

Some Americans say chemicals in waters turn frogs gay or we should just blindly lock down and destroy our economy. So probably Israel has their own retards.

It doesn't matter, I said this at the beggining of the war. Israel is going to curbstomp Hamas and all Hamas affiliates into the ground and no one will do anything as long as the USA is backing Israel.

Gazans want something else? Have something to trade, rise up and hand whats left of Hamas over on a silver platter, or discover some precious resource that some other 1st world country would want, otherwise just accept your fate. This world belongs only to the strong.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by akyan ↗

So probably Israel has their own retards.

I don’t doubt that