[Vincentsdream]

Lmao. "Nah that didn't happen." Good argument. What a fucking dickless child. Prove my point keep those fingers in your ears and keep screaming.

[Rfneimad]

Originally Posted by Vincentsdream ↗

Lmao. "Nah that didn't happen." Good argument. What a fucking dickless child. Prove my point keep those fingers in your ears and keep screaming.

It didn't happen the way you are presenting it. You bought the propaganda. The fact that you are acting like this online means you have already made your mind up, the only thing that is going to convince you is when it's all over and surprise there's still a bunch of gazans alive and the adults are picking up the pieces, again. And that might not even convince you, their propaganda is pretty good. Before this war I was kind of of the opinion my cousins had picked a pretty bad place to live in. You see I have met and worked with plenty of people from the region and they are without fail racist and antisemitic. They are raised that way. Turks hate Greeks, kurds hate Turks, they all hate blacks, etc etc. They talk how adults used to talk back when I was a kid. Anyways after Oct 7 I reread, and reread. I don't like to say things without fact checking, it's pretty damned easy these days. And you know what I realized? I was wrong, it's a very complicated history but Jews really haven't been treated very well for a very long time, especially by Muslims. The creation of Israel is as much about the Jewish experience in the Middle East as it is in WW2. Jews started coming as refugees from Russia and legally bought land and Arabs have been trying to kick them out ever since, but most of Israel is made of Jews from the middle east and nearby that moves there because they were treated poorly by islamists. So yeah, you need to go reread and open your eyes. ask yourself why you care about these people yet don't throw hissy fits over everything else wrong in the world.

[Vincentsdream]

Go-ahead. Explain howbthebthings I listed "actually" happened. Where are you from even? Where are you getting your news? Are you honestly going to say the Israeli news, which is nationalized, is the truth? I mean I knew youbwere fucking retarded but God damn.

Your entire argument can be summed up in "Nah that's not it." Honestly. Just put yourself down.

[WonderMomma]

It's clear you two aren't going to agree to disagree and it's getting a bit trolly with the personal insults. If you can't continue this discussion without them, it's time to stop it all together or take it to the WC, please.

[Vincentsdream]

Understood momma.

[kushie18]

remove israel from the middle east and replace the democracy with Kurdistan. israel contributes nothing to the region, they do not help in wars, they hate their neighbouring countries (egypt, lebanon, jordan), jews hate all arabs & muslims, nor do they even want associate with middle eastern hence the only people to have a ethnoreligion. their biggest exports just technology, minerals like diamonds and gold they steal from africa. israel is just a fucking political and religious Ponzi evangelicas fathom over. The kurds on the other hand have defeated isis numerous times as-well as helped during the Iraq-saddam war. As mentioned both Israel & Kurdistan are democracys yet israel doesn't help the Kurds, i find this odd isn't it it's better for israel to leave and make a state in amercia called "jew land"

[akyan]

Answer is simple, Israel and USA has alot of common interest not to mention massive USA investment. Kurds made too many enemies that also has common interest aligned with USA. End of the day is what you got to offer better than the next guy? if not, fuck off. There's no right and wrong in the eyes of US interests.

[kushie18]

can you explain what these "interests" are? if not, fuck off

[akyan]

"interests" are never straight forward and is usually extremely laird and complicated. so no, neither I or anyone can claim to know what all of US "interests" in the region are. But the reality is USA interests align with Israel far greater than Gazans or Kurds. If you can't even wrap your head around that simple logic, Fuck off.

[kushie18]

israel exists just for US interest, they should fuck off. they're the taiwan of the middle east