[kushie18]

Originally Posted by akyan ↗

History projects the future

can you project whats gonna happen in 10 years? can you project whats gonna happen in 5 years? can you project with ur ultimate history projection future knowledge if ukraine or russia will win the war? fucking guy with a know it all mindset

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

It's clear you two aren't going to agree to disagree and it's getting a bit trolly with the personal insults. If you can't continue this discussion without them, it's time to stop it all together or take it to the WC, please.

Once again, if you can't have discussions about stuff you disagree on without calling each other names or talking about anything other than the theme of the thread, it's time to take that shit to the watercooler. This thread is completely derailed now so I will be cleaning it up.

[Vincentsdream]

Originally Posted by Poster101 ↗

Source - "Palestinians in al-Nuseirat refugee camp were shot at after following crying noises that were played as a trap set by Israeli drones, luring them out of their homes to be targeted."

I know this was a tactic HAMAS used to have some successful ambushes earlies in the war but I am trying to makes heads or tales of why the IDF would use it to lure out HAMAS? I dont imagine HAMAS coming out of tunnels to save a crying baby

If it's real, they aren't targeting Hamas. Thry killed exactly who they intended to.

[SDI]

Originally Posted by Vincentsdream ↗

That's not how air defense works. It isn't a blanket 5 or 10% makes it through. The last iran barrage was the limit of the defense. What got through did so be cause it was too much. So if they had sent more those additional would have all made it. They sent what 400 ballistic and drones? If they sent 800 you wouldn't get the same 5% statistics it would be significantly higher the amount that gets through.

It's not a video game where the perk is 10% get through. There was a limit to what could be stopped and Iran sent just enough for a small percentage to getthrough, if thry sent more damage would have been significantly more.

You need to consider counter strikes in case of a real war. The Iranian attack did not use the full potential: Iran has probably 5x the ballistic missiles they used in that night. But what they used is 100% of their launch capability. So its questionable how strong a second attack wave would have been. Reloading launch pads and mobile missile trucks takes time and counterstrikes with ballistic missiles and jets would reduce this potential. Ofc IAF, possibly USAAF and jets from alot other nations would go for Iranian launch infrastructure.

Also consider that Iran has no air defense, no air force, no modern ground troops, no modern tanks, no modern heli gunships. They just have the missile card, drone card and alot martyrs. Which isn't enough to compete. While 90-95% of a Iranian ballistic missile strike, 100% of cruise missiles and 100% of its drone strikes will be intercepted by Allies, any allied air and missile strike will penetrate, I guess.

It would be a slaughter. Irans best asset is Joe Biden and the rest of these submissive Democrats. They abondoned Afg, they abandoned Iraq. They even let Ukraine hanging in the air atm (which might change, hopefully) and try to stall IDF whereever possible. Peace at any cost? Sounds like Munich, 1937. Sometimes wars just have to be fought. Peace at any cost always leads into desaster and Iran with its 3 main proxies should be reduced somehow. Next should be Putin, imho. I know I'm dreaming. It won't happen. US somehow lost its edge :(

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-797675

Just found this article. Sources indicate that there will be probably no Israel vs Iran escalation. Sounds like puppet master Netanjahu used the Iranian folly to trade an IAF counterstrike vs Iran for the Rafah op. US accepted and IDF is atm mobilizing new brigades for this. Also from now on all pro Palestinean UNSC resolutions will be vetoed again. Carte Blanche for IDF in Gaza. Just look at the latest air strike reports, even next to the egyptian border.

[mothmon]

Originally Posted by SDI ↗

You need to consider counter strikes in case of a real war. The Iranian attack did not use the full potential: Iran has probably 5x the ballistic missiles they used in that night. But what they used is 100% of their launch capability. So its questionable how strong a second attack wave would have been. Reloading launch pads and mobile missile trucks takes time and counterstrikes with ballistic missiles and jets would reduce this potential. Ofc IAF, possibly USAAF and jets from alot other nations would go for Iranian launch infrastructure.

Also consider that Iran has no air defense, no air force, no modern ground troops, no modern tanks, no modern heli gunships. They just have the missile card, drone card and alot martyrs. Which isn't enough to compete. While 90-95% of a Iranian ballistic missile strike, 100% of cruise missiles and 100% of its drone strikes will be intercepted by Allies, any allied air and missile strike will penetrate, I guess.

It would be a slaughter. Irans best asset is Joe Biden and the rest of these submissive Democrats. They abondoned Afg, they abandoned Iraq. They even let Ukraine hanging in the air atm (which might change, hopefully) and try to stall IDF whereever possible. Peace at any cost? Sounds like Munich, 1937. Sometimes wars just have to be fought. Peace at any cost always leads into desaster and Iran with its 3 main proxies should be reduced somehow. Next should be Putin, imho. I know I'm dreaming. It won't happen. US somehow lost its edge :(

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-797675

Just found this article. Sources indicate that there will be probably no Israel vs Iran escalation. Sounds like puppet master Netanjahu used the Iranian folly to trade an IAF counterstrike vs Iran for the Rafah op. US accepted and IDF is atm mobilizing new brigades for this. Also from now on all pro Palestinean UNSC resolutions will be vetoed again. Carte Blanche for IDF in Gaza. Just look at the latest air strike reports, even next to the egyptian border.

It would be like the late late Saddam Hussein's famous quote just before the Gulf War: "It will be the mother of all wars!" which translated into western semantics means, "We don't really have a chance, but... we got big balls, right? RIGHT?!"

[mothmon]

They really shouldn't be messing with Israel. Don't the silly muslims know that even old man Moses had horns? (The Devil himself must have stolen this fashion statement )

[Rfneimad]

Originally Posted by mothmon ↗

They really shouldn't be messing with Israel. Don't the silly muslims know that even old man Moses had horns? (The Devil himself must have stolen this fashion statement )

Moses kicked the proto palestinians out to bring his bloodthirsty tribe in. To be fair to the muslims they did get to push the jews around for quite some time before it backfired.

[mothmon]

Yes, the jews do have a history of being ruthless, but... compared to the history of the muslims in their bloodthirstiness, they're a refreshing fruitopia drink!

[Rfneimad]

Originally Posted by mothmon ↗

Yes, the jews do have a history of being ruthless, but... compared to the history of the muslims in their bloodthirstiness, they're a refreshing fruitopia drink!

Yeah I was being ironic or sarcastic or another ic I don't know

[mothmon]

What angry, evil little rat faces they have. Chills me