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Just about to day that it's happened before. God these guys get so triggered by cloth.
Well, in their defense it is an ugly mop of a flag of a non-existent country.
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Hamas released new hostage video. This time its Hersh Goldberg-Polin. Taken captive at Nova festival from a roadside shelter. His hand had been blown off by a grenade thrown inside the shelter, Nova Festival Oct 7th. Videos like this spark alot diversion in Israeli society. While other countries wouldn't care too much, Israel is incredibly sensitive to that hostage issue.

Also: Sinwar, Hamas leader in Gaza, emerged from his underground hideout and visited several sites in Rafah. Still waiting for images.
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I can't imagine Sinwar still being alive by the new year. Especially with the IDF about to move into Rafah to crush HAMAS, its sympathizers and any pallys that danced that fateful day on Oct. 7th when they heard the news into carbon dust (to quote a colorful term from another DR poster I saw recently)
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After ww2 people were sorry for the poor Jews and gave them land now known as Israël. The Jews in Israël are till this day doing the same to the Palestinians (the original inhabitants of the area) as Hitler did to them.

And I hate Muslims but this is the only subject I actually agree with the Muslims.
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Is the knife in the room with us?
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I gave a presentation this morning, partly about Afghanistan. On the drive home it set me thinking.

My hunch is that part of the reason for Western protests about Gaza is a total failure to understand what urban war is, and what it looks like, and people are horrified to see it. Totally understandable. Now couple that to a powerful disinformation campaign that exploits those feelings of horror and tells them what they’re seeing and can’t comprehend (urban war) is something else (genocide).

As a commander in Afghanistan on my first two tours, which were before the “counterinsurgency” era, I saw my job as being to apply maximum violence to kill the enemy legally within rules of engagement. If I had a Harrier or an A-10 or an Apache to call on, I’d use that as a first option. If not, I’d use mortars or Javelin or machine guns if I had them. Only as a last resort would I commit my rifle sections.

That’s war. And that’s what Israel is fighting, on a far more brutal scale. Hamas and the surrounding Iranian proxies are an existential threat to Israel’s existence as a country. It’s that which people in the West fail to understand. We’re used to expeditionary wars of choice on the other side of the world. Israel has kibbutzim 5km from where their troops are fighting. The IDF in Gaza can look over their shoulders and see their home. It’s a totally different perspective on war from the one we in the West are used to.

Hamas have to be deleted as a fighting force for Israel to survive as a country with safe borders. To achieve that is the single most basic function of government. This isn’t a war Israel wants but it’s one they’ve been forced to fight. They’ve already taken double the fatalities the British did in Afghanistan and Iraq combined.

If they wanted to, they could stand off with jets, and hit Gaza City and Khan Younis and Rafah simultaneously and level the place - and legally. If it’s a military target and you can justify the collateral damage, the law of armed conflict says that’s legal. That Israel hasn’t done that tells you all you need to know about whether this is a genocide or not.

I don’t blame people for being sucked in by disinformation about Gaza. It’s been sophisticated and effective information warfare. I have no limits to my contempt for those who throw around “genocide” when they know perfectly well it isn’t. The most serious of crimes shouldn’t be debased like that, and shame on South Africa and their allies who have abused international law in this way.

War is horrifying, brutal, and extremely violent. Gaza isn’t a conventional counter-terror campaign. We saw on 7 October how well armed, organised and tactically aware Hamas are. They use human and humanitarian shields. They’ve forced Israel into the only appropriate response, and it’s the innocents in Gaza who suffer. That the numbers of innocents injured and killed is so low is a testament to the IDF using tactics that have incurred far higher IDF casualties than other options on the table.

“War is hell” is a cliche for a reason. But it’s nothing more than a war that we see in Gaza."
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That disgusting and hideous looking Moms Mabley-esque nutbag that harassed Alec Baldwin in his coffee shop kept saying, "FREE PALESTINE! I want to hear you say it, Alec! FREE PALESTINE!" Whenever I think of the protestors in the U.S. screaming "GENOCIDE!" that woman-thing is what I tend to think of - unhinged, ill-informed, attention whore types
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The IDF really should get fined for dumping that trash in the road. No one is above the law.
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Gentle, peace-loving "Free Palestine!" protestor at Columbia University (or one of those places). Remember, it's not about the jews, anti-semitism or the zionists for them; it's about stopping the genocide, be you jew, arab, white or whatever. The way to get it is through PEACEFUL PROTEST, PEEPS!
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no remorse in terminating terrorists even if they're minor. don't fall prey to pisslamic propaganda
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