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Re: ISRAEL/PALESTINE Conflict Discussion Thread III (2023)

These were all “defensive stances” were they?

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Are you some kind of mug to defend Israel so vehemently?
A mug?

I am not a "mug" who believes any story an Arab says about a non-Arab. The Koran is the source of this wisdom.
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Knowing of over a hundred people that have been to these marches, this is bollocks. They’re marches for peace and for the suffering to end for both sides. They’re not anti Muslim or anti Israel. They’re practical people with a shred of empathy, and can see clear as day that the attack by Hamas was awful, as is the over response from Israel. It’s gone way past defending themselves and zero diplomacy is happening on either side. And zero nations seem to be trying to propagate a path to diplomacy. They’re giving Isreal permission to cleanse Palestine. And that is the latest and most wrong part. But they’re not saying the behaviour of the Hamas terrorists was also not wrong. Both are.

Things didn’t begin on the 7th. Take a look at the atrocities happening in the weeks, days and hours before the attack. You need to for perspective. People act like this came out of the blue and Isreal are some weak and innocent party that’s been stabbed in the back. Believe that and you’ll believe anything.
Yes because the marches calling for intifada are definitely advocating for peace...
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https://www.internationalaffairs.org...uld-it-matter/
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Re: ISRAEL/PALESTINE Conflict Discussion Thread III (2023)

These were all “defensive stances” were they?

October 3rd. When 1040 Israeli settlers raided al aqsa mosque and beat up palestinians.

Again October 3rd when they attacked a palestinian girl, brutally beating her up after they raided hebron.

October 2nd when they assaulted elderly palestinian women and then proceeded to detain them after beating them up.

September 29th when israelis stormed al aqsa mosque injuring the elderly and beating up muslims praying.

September 27th. When they assaulted another young palestinian woman.
And again on the same day, when they detained a child. Over 700 palestinian children are currently detained in israels prisons.

September 24th when they murdered a palestinian man after they raided and injured multiple palestinians in a refugee camp.

September 22nd when they hit a palestinian child in the face with a stone. after they had raided his village.

September 20th. When they bombed Jenin refugee camp killing many palestinians including many of our palestinian youth and injuring hundreds. Is it not considered a terror attack when they do it?

23 years ago when the video of the father shielding his 12 year old boy from the iof came out. On camera how screamed saying he’s just a kid and they still shot him dead. This father is still alive and lost even more family this month.

August 18th when they shot a child named Abed in the head killing him.

July 26th, Faris was 14 years old when Israelis shot him in the head. Isreal has been killing kids for decades.

July 8th, the israeli forces kidnapped two palestinian children, their names are Taymor and Ishaq.

In 2020 israeli forces shot and killed an autistic palestinian man 7 times in east Jerusalem. This year his murders were acquitted and they harassed his mother endlessly. The bodycam footage shows him crying and cowering in fear as he tried to hide from the IOF.

On June 5th the IOF soldiers shot 2 year old palestinian boy in his head and killed him.

They murdered Shireen Abu Akleh, lied about it, blamed palestinians for it, admitted they did it, harassed palestinians holding a funeral for her, and then proceeded to desecrate her grave.



Are you some kind of mug to defend Israel so vehemently?

ham ass has done, and continues to do, much worse.
MANY muzzlumms do, daily, for centuries.

ham ass is a violent, terror group of lunatics...
period.
And only lunatics support them and/or their agenda(s).
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◼"The Philippines: Demonstrators try to break into the American embassy against the background of the war in Gaza."

◼"The Palestinian tent city that was built in Khan Yunis, where residents of the northern Gaza Strip and residents who left their homes stay."
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◼"The President of Turkey in a sharp attack on Israel

Turkish President Erdogan: "I say in the clearest way - Israel is a terrorist state.

Her dreams will end in disappointment.

We are taking actions to ensure the prosecution of Israeli politicians and military personnel before international courts."

Erdogan to Netanyahu: "Are you holding an atomic bomb and threatening to use it?
No matter what you hold. You will leave.""

◼"The first diesel truck to enter the Gaza Strip through the Rafah crossing since the beginning of the war. On the truck was a sign of the "Abnana Sinai" company, which is close to the Egyptian president, al-Sisi."
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◼"Arab channels: "Israeli soldiers are holding Talmudic ceremonies in the northern Gaza Strip.""

From Wiki:
"The Talmud (/ˈtɑːlmʊd, -məd, ˈtæl-/; Hebrew: תַּלְמוּד‎, romanized: Talmūḏ) is the central text of Rabbinic Judaism and the primary source of Jewish religious law (halakha) and Jewish theology. Until the advent of modernity, in nearly all Jewish communities, the Talmud was the centerpiece of Jewish cultural life and was foundational to "all Jewish thought and aspirations", serving also as "the guide for the daily life" of Jews."

I find it wildly ironic how protests for peace result in violence and disorder. It's like rayiyaaaaaain on your wedding day.

"The United States: Protesters blocked the headquarters of the Democratic Party in Washington while calling for a ceasefire."

Too peaceful? "USA: Anti-Israel demonstration near the White House calling for a ceasefire in Gaza."
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Enough of the trigger term "baby killers" in every fucking post. My instincts tell me these are actually your words but by some slim chance they're not... you should re-evaluate the credibility of your sources' based on maturity level alone. If you can't summarize your sources' emotional, opinionated descriptions into more informative facts without the emotions take that shit to reddit or twitter. This is not the place for that shit.
Dont understand why people take sides when they dont understand whats true or not. These videos depict violence but they dont truly give the reasons why its happening. The reasons to me are obscured and theres too many holes to this start of a war. Why did Israel let itself get attacked in the first place and how? Why was there a nationwide alert test in usa/russia 2 or 3 days before the actual attack? None of it makes any sense. The people who dont question this stuff will all fall into the medias hands. This shit aint a coincidence.

Edit: I know this is a footage thread but I had to chime in because people are way too brainwashed and essentially dont question anything. They grab at whatever they think is right based on the information provided. Its truly insane how the media can manipulate you but if thats usually the case then you've already never really questioned anything in life other than your own little bubble.
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Dont understand why people take sides when they dont understand whats true or not. These videos depict violence but they dont truly give the reasons why its happening. The reasons to me are obscured and theres too many holes to this start of a war. Why did Israel let itself get attacked in the first place and how? Why was there a nationwide alert test in usa/russia 2 or 3 days before the actual attack? None of it makes any sense. The people who dont question this stuff will all fall into the medias hands. This shit aint a coincidence.

Edit: I know this is a footage thread but I had to chime in because people are way too brainwashed and essentially dont question anything. They grab at whatever they think is right based on the information provided. Its truly insane how the media can manipulate you but if thats usually the case then you've already never really questioned anything in life other than your own little bubble.
Produce. Consume.
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Dont understand why people take sides when they dont understand whats true or not. These videos depict violence but they dont truly give the reasons why its happening. The reasons to me are obscured and theres too many holes to this start of a war. Why did Israel let itself get attacked in the first place and how? Why was there a nationwide alert test in usa/russia 2 or 3 days before the actual attack? None of it makes any sense. The people who dont question this stuff will all fall into the medias hands. This shit aint a coincidence.

Edit: I know this is a footage thread but I had to chime in because people are way too brainwashed and essentially dont question anything. They grab at whatever they think is right based on the information provided. Its truly insane how the media can manipulate you but if thats usually the case then you've already never really questioned anything in life other than your own little bubble.

Agree. As a whole, humans are indoctrinated to follow. It's about controlling the masses and the endless systems designed to do so are extremely successful. Rolling up sleeves, questioning and digging through endless amounts of information, and thinking for oneself is much harder than blindly following something or someone.

The biggest problems, for me, with blind acceptance is the hypocrisy and whataboutism. Babies are dying on both ends and what white guys do in the US is completely irrelevant to this situation.

I can even accept or "respect" the fact that everyone is entitled to pick their side and feel how they feel regardless of how little sense it makes to me... but don't come in here posting media with descriptors borderlining on misinformation/propaganda and sound like they were written by a prepubescent boy. This is Documenting Reality not Documenting Opinions.

EDIT: Moved with a couple other related comments from the media thread
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