[Dodecahedron]

Originally Posted by DrKGSmiff ↗

Do you seriously want to get into a rap-sheet measuring contest comparing the actions of the IDF to a literal terrorist organization?

I’m not going to take the time to read the backstory on every one of those events, but I’d bet everything I own that the VAST majority of them start with “Muslim attacks Jews, so…”

The following is FACT, and something you need to come to terms with if you’re going to continue to support the Islamist terrorist side in this battle:

The Jews were there for over 2,500 years before Muhammad was even born. From then on, the land changed hands dozens of times, several before the Islamists decided to get into the fray- The land we call Palestine has more rightful claim by the Italians than it does any Muslim.

Once the Islamists took it, it STILL went back and forth several times.

In the modern era, starting in, say, the 20th century, the area was populated with BOTH Muslims and Jews, and roughly in population placements to match the current lines between Israel and Palestine.

When those lines were codified, for right or for wrong, and set down on the modern world map, the Islamists didn’t even wait two hours (TWO FUCKING HOURS!) before they attacked Israel and tried to wipe it off the map.

Since the end of that first modern war, as soon as the Muslims finished licking their wounds, they’ve continued their mission to destroy Israel. It’s in their governmental charter, for crying out loud.



I have zero doubt that the Israeli government has moments of heavy-handedness, but they are on their own native soil and surrounded by aggressors who are actively trying to destroy them- and few eggs are bound to get broken.

And, if the Marxist sympathizers want to cry about it, it would be good for them to remember: that there is ANY Palestinian territory left, at all, is due to soft generosity on the part of the Israelis.

The Muslims took the land that they call their own from the Israelites. History played out, the land changed hands several times, and ended up with the Jews and Muslims living in close proximity. This last time that the Muslims tried (and failed), or the time before that… or the time before that, the Israelis didn’t have to give the Palestinians jack-shit and, if they were playing by the same rules as the Islamists, there would be no Palestine. It would have all become Israel 75 years ago.

So, if you want to shack up with the alahus at the snack bar, you should go to Gaza, but don’t forget to thank Israel for letting your brothers continue to live there.

You talk a lot without properly responding.

I don’t support Hamas, obviously.

Sick of constantly seeing people defend Israel’s killing of civilians. A multitude of excuses. That’s supporting terrorism.

They’re both wrong.

[Dodecahedron]

Originally Posted by tootsieflowrslave ↗

This article was posted by an Israeli center right publication about 4 years ago...

https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-c...divided-583082

This one was posted by a center/independent Israeli publication on October 8th...

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-ye...-in-our-faces/

Here is one more from an Israeli conservative publication...

https://www.jns.org/the-myth-that-is...-funded-hamas/

I won't give my opinions, that is for anyone to decide on their own. I just posted this because I rarely hear anyone discussing this on either side.

There’s barely any intelligent discussion. It’s just a place for people to get a free pass for their Islamophobia.

[Dodecahedron]

Originally Posted by depraved1 ↗

All of which are BAD things.

Left wing policies are grounded in egalitarianism you dickhead. There’s nothing bad about that.

[WonderMomma]

This is kind of a nice change of pace.

"The IDF spokesman in Arabic publishes a document from the heart of Gaza City in which IDF soldiers are seen helping the Palestinian civilian population (with white flags) to evacuate using a freight wagon.

Location: A-Netzer Street in Gaza City next to the "White Dream" bridal salon and next to the courtyard of a UNRWA school."

[royalace]

The real terrorist are the IDF

[AmigoBandar]

Originally Posted by Dodecahedron ↗

Sick of constantly seeing people defend Israel’s killing of civilians. A multitude of excuses. That’s supporting terrorism.

Yet not holding these Islamist terrorists for any of this? Do they not have a multitude of excuses for acting so savagely against non-combatants? The difference is the Israelis are not specifically targeting civilians while the jihadis are, and intentionally trying to maximize civilian deaths, including their own, using them, and anyone, for political purposes. Pure psychopathy.

Originally Posted by Dodecahedron ↗

Left wing policies are grounded in egalitarianism you dickhead. There’s nothing bad about that.

Maybe the earliest "leftist" thought tried to be, but once Marx came on the scene, it became all about pitting one class, or race, against another. Check out that video I shared, or, next time you read Das Kapital, if you realize that "capitalist" is code word for Jew, his message becomes crystal clear.

Originally Posted by royalace ↗

The real terrorist are the IDF

Projection? Seems to me Hamas, as well as any authoritarian state, are the experts at using fear to control people.

[WonderMomma]

▶"During a debate at the University of Dublin in Ireland, a student jumped out of his seat and started yelling at a Jewish student: "We will do what happened on October 7th again and again."

▶"An unusual event ahead: ⛈️
It is about days A and B, first in the north that will spread to the south. It will be rainy and windy, cloudy, hail, and strong winds (70 km/h).

We note that before the rain comes, there may be haze and sandstorms in the southern center.

Amounts expected in the north of more than 150 mm, and 100 in the center. Heavy fear of flooding.

And at night it will snow in Hermon."

[depraved1]

Originally Posted by AmigoBandar ↗

Narcissistic, and maybe a little psychopathic. And very Germanic, or barbarian? Many have that "warrior gene." Mix that with a militant ideology, or "theology," well, I'll let others to make their own value judgements.

Germanic = very good

[depraved1]

Originally Posted by Dodecahedron ↗

Left wing policies are grounded in egalitarianism you dickhead. There’s nothing bad about that.

I dont give a mutherfukk what they are
grounded in, you pussy.

What they are today, and have been for years,
is failure, destruction & dogshit.
There is everything bad about that.

[b0g]

Originally Posted by depraved1 ↗

PROPAGANDA

Chris Hedges has lived 7 years in Gaza, and speaks arabic. He is also Pulitzer price winner.

The word you vomitted is not present in the bible Chris Hedges preaches as Presbyt. ministre.