[Rfneimad]

Must resist urge to argue with Tom Cooper on Facebook about this crap

[akyan]

Wow, blink of an eye and it's 3 month. Is there any doubt of how this war will play out? Israel will win. I explained why 3 months ago. There's no other logical conclusion.

[Father Ted]

Originally Posted by akyan ↗

Wow, blink of an eye and it's 3 month. Is there any doubt of how this war will play out? Israel will win. I explained why 3 months ago. There's no other logical conclusion.

They will win, but in the long run they will be faced with terrorism which is worse.. they will never be able to walk through the streets in peace.. their shipping will constantly be targeted, they might push Iran too far and Iran will fully retaliate and Iran is the biggest military in the Middle East with some amazing missiles capabilities.

[Rfneimad]

Had to unfriend Tom Cooper, what a douche.

[Rfneimad]

Heres where all this stupid crap started.

"The Banu Qurayza (Arabic: بنو قريظة; alternate spellings include Quraiza, Qurayzah, Quraytha, and the archaic Koreiza) were a Jewish tribe which lived in northern Arabia, at the oasis of Yathrib (now known as Medina). They were one of the three major Jewish tribes of the city, along with the Banu Qaynuqa and Banu Nadir.[1] Jewish tribes reportedly arrived in Hijaz in the wake of the Jewish–Roman wars and introduced agriculture, putting them in a culturally, economically and politically dominant position.[2][3] However, in the 5th century, the Banu Aws and the Banu Khazraj, two Arab tribes that had arrived from Yemen, gained dominance.[4] When these two tribes became embroiled in conflict with each other, the Jewish tribes, now clients[3][5] or allies[4] of the Arabs, fought on different sides, the Qurayza siding with the Aws.[6]

In 622, Muhammad migrated to Medina after successfully negotiating with the Khazraj—to which his great-grandmother belonged[7]—and the Aws to mediate their tribal conflicts in the city.[8][9] Previously, in Mecca, tensions had arisen between Muhammad and the Quraysh following his attacks on their faith after they had previously shown little interest in his proselytizing activities.[10][11][12][13] After the migration, Muhammad often raided Quraysh trade caravans and plundered their goods, leading to armed conflicts between the two.[14][15] Muhammad also tried to convince the Jewish population of Medina that he was their prophet, but failed and was criticized, in part, for the inconsistency of his Quran with the Jewish scriptures. This led to the transfer of the direction of the Islamic prayer from Jerusalem to the Kaaba in Mecca, and sometime later to the expulsion of the Banu Qaynuqa and Banu Nadir from Medina by him.[6][16]

After the Battle of the Trench, Muhammad was reportedly visited by Gabriel, who directed him to attack the Qurayza.[17] Despite the tribe's earlier assistance in excavating the trench to impede the Meccans' advance and providing the Muslims with their tools,[18][19][20] Muhammad later accused them of having sided with his enemy—a claim that they strongly refuted.[21] At a later stage of Muhammad's siege against them, the Qurayza initially proposed surrendering and vacating their land, while requesting permission to carry one camel load of possessions per person. When Muhammad declined, they subsequently requested to depart without taking any belongings. Muhammad, however, insisted that they surrender unconditionally.[22][23"

So basically islam is the problem, has been the problem, and always shall be the problem. Because it was designed to let Mohammed take what he wanted from whoever he felt like taking it from.

[akyan]

Originally Posted by Father Ted ↗

They will win, but in the long run they will be faced with terrorism which is worse.. they will never be able to walk through the streets in peace.. their shipping will constantly be targeted, they might push Iran too far and Iran will fully retaliate and Iran is the biggest military in the Middle East with some amazing missiles capabilities.

You know that's what the terrorists been threatening America for as long as I can remember. As far as I know USA still shitting on said terrorists and very publicly murder terrorist leaders. (the swiss army knife drone assassination was my favorite) google it, it will make you chuckle.

Disrupting global trade is fast track way to be on the receiving end of variety of munitions from a variety of effected countries.

There is absolutely 0 positive outcome for Hamas.

The Hoothies or however you spell their name is absolutely pissing off everyone at once intentionally or not. Suez Canal is a major source of income for Egypt, large reduction of traffic cuts deep into their bottom line. India, China, and variety of other countries with no ties to this conflict suddenly has their commercial interests threatened, oh ya lets see how long these dumb shits start receiving missiles from countries other than USA.

Iran must be suicidal to get directly involved. Israel is a strategic ally of the United States. USA will go to war to defend Israel, it's not vaguely worded like Taiwan and it's definitely not like Ukraine which USA has 0 obligations. So if Iran wants to roll the dice on Israel they need to watch documentary about "Desert Storm". It's been almost 40 years since Iraq which thought to be the 5th or 7th strongest army of the world get wrecked by technology unheard of like the GPS and the Abram Tank (slaughtered whole divisions of Republican guards with loss of 1 Bradley). What new tech is USA hiding under it's sleeve now? If Iran is smart, they won't try and find out.

[Father Ted]

Originally Posted by akyan ↗

You know that's what the terrorists been threatening America for as long as I can remember. As far as I know USA still shitting on said terrorists and very publicly murder terrorist leaders. (the swiss army knife drone assassination was my favorite) google it, it will make you chuckle.

Disrupting global trade is fast track way to be on the receiving end of variety of munitions from a variety of effected countries.

There is absolutely 0 positive outcome for Hamas.

The Hoothies or however you spell their name is absolutely pissing off everyone at once intentionally or not. Suez Canal is a major source of income for Egypt, large reduction of traffic cuts deep into their bottom line. India, China, and variety of other countries with no ties to this conflict suddenly has their commercial interests threatened, oh ya lets see how long these dumb shits start receiving missiles from countries other than USA.

Iran must be suicidal to get directly involved. Israel is a strategic ally of the United States. USA will go to war to defend Israel, it's not vaguely worded like Taiwan and it's definitely not like Ukraine which USA has 0 obligations. So if Iran wants to roll the dice on Israel they need to watch documentary about "Desert Storm". It's been almost 40 years since Iraq which thought to be the 5th or 7th strongest army of the world get wrecked by technology unheard of like the GPS and the Abram Tank (slaughtered whole divisions of Republican guards with loss of 1 Bradley). What new tech is USA hiding under it's sleeve now? If Iran is smart, they won't try and find out.

USA lost the war on global terrorism. The taliban run Afghanistan now, they got the victory. The last war America won was that of desert storm in 1991 and that was because the enemy was operating old T55 tanks and older. USA doesn't win major wars anymore, Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Cuba. It's last major war that it was involved in was ww2 and that was a combined effort, even then the Japanese turned the morale of unites states military into such despair that they considered abandoning the war. They had to print articles on the front pages of the news showing Americans erecting flags to make it look like they won major victories in Japan but the truth was that Japan was relentless and was never going to surrender and that really pain off. The atomic bomb was their only hope but that was the only way they could hope to achieve anything. Even then they lied about having more bombs.

America doesn't want to provoke Iran or North Korea. In fact it didn't even dare to stop north Korea making nuclear weapons because they know how the last Korean war turned out. It was a disaster and they where literally on the brink of defeat only that they make a complete gamble and it helped them push the Koreans back a bit but that was it, they couldn't achieve anymore than that.

So no, the USA isn't going to make any difference to this war or to terrorism. In the end they will still lose or just fail to achieve their goal.

Desert Storm is a war they bring up a lot because it is the only war in recent times that they can say they achieved but even then they didn't get to finish what they wanted to. It was a military success but their goals didn't play out.

[akyan]

Most of what you said is debatable at best and not factually accurate. Not going into details of pointless debate, but USA has been #1 superpower for a very long time and as thing sit today still is #1 superpower. In the future, who knows? all the #1 superpowers of human history has fallen, so we will see. But today, USA will reduce Iran to rubble in an all out conflict.

Don't use Afghanistan, Vietnam, or Korea as examples as in those military conflict USA never lost. Political defeat is a whole other topic of conversation. This is from a pure military perspective. Each conflict brings new technology and ways to inflict unspeakable carnage upon the enemies of America, examining the amount of casualty suffered from each conflict, the enemies killed is more staggering compare to USA losses in each consecutive conflict (meaning the kill/death ratio for USA is increasing exponentially). The last conflict in Afghanistan USA lost a couple thousand over 20 years of occupation! how many dead for the Talibans? How many dead during the first month alone? I will take a war where we lose 1 to every 1000 enemy killed. You think USA going to make same mistake as to occupy Iran? how about a crater to send a message? Again times changed, technology changed, unless Iran wants to be back to the stone ages, best not to roll the dice on USA.

Are you Iranian? do not try to puff up Iran's alleged great military power, raining missiles on Iranian generals everyday. War with Russia or China will have catastrophic consequences for USA and our way of life will definitely be effected. But Iran? life won't change much.

[AmigoBandar]

Originally Posted by Father Ted ↗

USA lost the war on global terrorism.

There's no winning or losing against terror (evil). It is never ending. Not about wins, it's all about the struggle against it. Until we evolve, there will always be someone(s) that will use fear to try and control us, and resisting them is one of many of our goals.

[depraved1]

Kill ALL the HAM-ASS rats!