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06-24-2023, 12:40 PM
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Re: 2023 Russian Civil War Mega Thread (Wagner vs. RF)
This civil war could not have happened to a more perfect group of homicidal nutbags in power. Lets hope the MOD has no answer for the 20k battle hardened Wagners heading their way and the citizens do the right thing. If they dump Putin, they can blame everything on him, pull out of UKR and start being human beings again
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#53
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06-24-2023, 01:20 PM
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Re: 2023 Russian Civil War Mega Thread (Wagner vs. RF)
Wagneritskoy trust their YP, whereas most ordinary military have no faith in their leaders. Also the inherent top down approach in Russian command makes swift mobility and autonomous actions uncommon. If WG can fence of the Kadyrovitskoy's first confrontation, they'll have a moral advantage. |
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06-24-2023, 01:26 PM
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| So Fucking Banned Poster Rank:621 Orc of Mount Gundabad Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,446 Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Quoted: 900 Post(s)
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Re: 2023 Russian Civil War Mega Thread (Wagner vs. RF)
Keep your panties on, ladies. Reports are coming in of successful negotiations with Wagner facilitated by Belorussian President Lukashenko. Show is over.
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06-24-2023, 01:33 PM
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Re: 2023 Russian Civil War Mega Thread (Wagner vs. RF)
https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news...-23/index.html "Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin published a new audio recording Saturday claiming he was turning his forces around from a march toward Moscow. “We turning our columns around and going back in the other direction toward our field camps, in accordance with the plan,” he said in a message on Telegram. The announcement comes as the Belarusian government claimed President Alexander Lukashenko had reached a deal with Wagner boss to halt the march of his forces on Moscow. " |
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06-24-2023, 02:27 PM
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Re: 2023 Russian Civil War Mega Thread (Wagner vs. RF)
Interestingly, it was exactly 100 years and 1 week ago that the multi party Russian Civil War involving the Bolsheviks ended. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Civil_War "Russia's capital was once moved to Moscow from St. Petersburg for reasons of being farther away from the border (in particular, with "bourgeois" Finland). Now, Russian government officials and their families are fleeing from Moscow to St. Petersburg in droves, effectively to the outskirts of the country. Only a hundred years have passed. The Russian Civil War ended in 1923 on Sakhalin. The new millennium picked up the baton." Also... 10 months to capture Bakhmut and 3 hours to capture Rostov.
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#57
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06-24-2023, 03:19 PM
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Re: 2023 Russian Civil War Mega Thread (Wagner vs. RF)
I know that this is reportedly said to be mostly over but I'm still going to post some media that may not be here already. I'm just starting to sift through everything. Heavily-pro-Kremlin propagandist Kots believes this operation by Prigozhintsi was planned weeks ahead which is shown by its complexity and level of preparation: "Fighters of the "Wagner" PMC massively release prisoners from Rostov prisons to join their ranks. Armed men in camouflage disarm the guards in Rostov penal colonies. They urge convicts to join them and march together to Moscow" NO MEDIA: ⏺ "Prigozhyn lied about "shell hunger" and accumulated ammunition for 2 months - Gulagu. net" ⏺ A statement released by Zelenskyy: "Everyone who chooses the path of evil destroys himself. Who sends columns of troops to destroy the lives of another country and cannot stop them from fleeing and betraying when life resists. Who terrorizes with missiles, and when they are shot down, humiliates himself to receive Shahed drones. Who despises people and throws hundreds of thousands into the war, in order to eventually barricade himself in the Moscow region from those whom he himself armed. For a long time, Russia used propaganda to mask its weakness and the stupidity of its government. And now there is so much chaos that no lie can hide it. And all this is one person, who again and again scares by the year 1917, although he is able to result in nothing else but this. Russia's weakness is obvious. Full-scale weakness. And the longer Russia keeps its troops and mercenaries on our land, the more chaos, pain, and problems it will have for itself later. It is also obvious. Ukraine is able to protect Europe from the spread of Russian evil and chaos. We keep our resilience, unity and strength. All our commanders, all our soldiers know what to do. Glory to Ukraine!" 1️⃣ Zelenskyy's address for 24 June 2023 "Today is a day when there definitely should be no silence. And we definitely need leadership. Today the world saw that the bosses of Russia do not control anything. Nothing at all. Complete chaos. Complete absence of any predictability. And it is happening on Russian territory, which is fully loaded with weapons. The world should not be afraid. We know what protects us. Only our unity. Ukraine will definitely be able to protect Europe from any Russian forces, and it doesn't matter who commands them. We will protect. The security of Europe's eastern flank depends only on our defense. And that is why every manifestation of support for our defense is support for your defense, everyone in the free world. I will say it in Russian. The man from the Kremlin is obviously very afraid and probably hiding somewhere, not showing himself. I am sure that he is no longer in Moscow. He calls somewhere, and asks something... He knows what he is afraid of because he himself created this threat. All evil, all losses, all hatred – he himself who spreads it. And the longer he can run between his bunkers, the more you all will lose... all who are connected with Russia. What will we, Ukrainians, do? We will defend our country. We will defend our freedom. We will not be silent and we will not be inactive. We know how to win – and it will happen. Our victory in this war will definitely be. And what will you do? The longer your troops stay on Ukrainian land, the more devastation they will bring to Russia. The longer this person is in the Kremlin, the more disasters there will be." 2️⃣ "It seems that the Russian armed forces got confused and hit a civilian truck in the Voronezh region." 3️⃣ "Civilians in Rostov are bringing food and beverages to Wagner fighters." 4️⃣ "Russian media publish footage of a Russian air strike on a convoy of Wagnerites" #russiancivilwar #zelenskyy #civilian #aircraft
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06-24-2023, 03:31 PM
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Re: 2023 Russian Civil War Mega Thread (Wagner vs. RF)
"Belarusian opposition leader Svetlana Tikhonovskaya called for the expulsion of Russian troops from the country by the Belarusian army. To this end, she set up an operational headquarters and asked for help from Kastuś Kalinoŭski Regiment a Belarusian military unit fighting on the side of Ukraine."
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#59
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06-24-2023, 03:36 PM
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Re: 2023 Russian Civil War Mega Thread (Wagner vs. RF)
One of my sources is reporting this video is Wagner subduing Kadyrov's forces. Unsure if it's accurate but this source happens to be one of the more reliable of all the sources I post stuff from. #chechen #russiancivilwar
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06-24-2023, 03:44 PM
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Re: 2023 Russian Civil War Mega Thread (Wagner vs. RF)
This was confirmed by the mercenary leader himself, who said that it was a payout to the families of the victims" "The Oryx OSINT group has calculated (https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/st...%7Ctwtr%5Etrue) the losses in equipment of the Russian troops and the Wagner PMC during the first day of fighting. The army lost an Il-22 aircraft, two electronic warfare helicopters, a Mi-35 helicopter, a Tiger combat vehicle, and a KamAZ truck. The Wagnerites lost only one UAZ." "At the entrance to Moscow, the military began digging trenches and installing machine gun points" "Girkin on Prigozhin's plan - he sent a few thousand of his best troops to Moscow hoping the officials will run and Moscow will fall quickly. Meanwhile, the foothold in Rostov will provide some security. Supplying this advancing force will be challenging, however." "The 217th Guards Parachute Regiment has sided with Prigozhin - Russian media." "Amid the attempted armed mutiny, the Russian Foreign Ministry warned Western countries against any hints that the domestic situation in Russia could be used to achieve their Russophobic goals. Russian society resolutely supports the president, while the conspirators' mutiny plays into the hands of Russia's external enemies, the ministry noted. In the near future, the situation will find a solution worthy of the age-old wisdom of the Russian people and the Russian State, convinced in the Foreign Ministry, all the goals and objectives of the special operation will be accomplished." 1️⃣ "Rostov. People approaching the mercenaries to thank them and shake hands." 2️⃣ "The Russian Volunteer Corps expressed its readiness to help the rebels on the territory of the Russian Federation and called on its supporters to become more active "We all have a unique chance to determine our fate and the fate of our homeland," the RVC said." 3️⃣ "Rostov suburbs. Most of Kadyrov's men are still stuck in a traffic jam at the entrance to Rostov" (10:27am ET | 14:27 UTC) 4️⃣ ""Dagestan - without Russia" graffiti started appearing in Dagestan (Russian region in North Caucasus). Russian republics are seizing their chance for independence?" #russiancivilwar #rdkfrl #chechen
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