[William May]

Originally Posted by houseoftechno ↗

You want Gov to run your life? Russia's on the other side of the globe, and deep state is broke.

I have seen the deep state cancer first hand, repeatedly. In the past 2 decades, even longstanding science- and engineering-based agencies like NOAA and USACE have been destroyed at their foundations. None of the current storm disaster modeling discloses probability or risk factors. Why? I looked at the model source code, and the reason is the return period of their models is too long to have statistical relevance. Like 1000s of years. Utter bullshit - top to bottom. So they just eliminate the concept of probability from the model results. It is impossible to assess risk without probability, but ALL of the models have eliminated probability.

I used to work with these people. Following my code review, I talked to agency employees in a relaxed setting. "WTF is going on?" The response: "Yeah, we hear you but that's not something we can talk about." Yes, talking engineering risk concepts is now a national secret among NOAA and USACE staff. This same gutting of scientific method has occurred in all fields, at all Gov levels, but especially Fed, State and County, and it is all driven by the FED MONEY TIT.

So your solution is to scream to give more of my tax $$$ to these soulless motherfuckers? Our country would be vastly improved if we kill off every Fed Agency, because they are all beyond recovery.

Finally, why are you blaming elected officials for 1000-year storms in the first place! Do you realize how inane that sounds? The world has no guarantees. Sometimes bad shit just happens. Take care of your SELF, lick your wounds, bury your dead, and don't repeat your mistakes - that's the American way. Dumb asses can go live in the Socialist Republic of Canada. They're still taking the American losers, as far as I know.

Your idea of how weather forecasts work, is total and utter B.S. I KNOW U.S. meteorologists, and how they work, and what they look at. The stuff you think is for 1000 year projections has NOTHING to do with them. They do an EXCELLENT JOB forecasting the weather, or at least they did before the NWS and NOAA got gutted.

If you EVER heard a weather warning on TV or radio (and I KNOW YOU HAVE!) you would understand that THOSE WERE ALL LACKING IN THE TEXAS WEATHER SITUATION, because there were no government meteorologists to look at the incoming data, and NONE were generated. What limited warnings were issued DID NOT take into account the actual weather situation, just simple forecasts with no input from the NWS or the NOAA.

BOTH of those organizations present the weather data they receive, and they did it ACCURATELY.

Your mention of the "Deep State" (which is completely imaginary and doesn't exist) tells me instantly that you have no clue at all about what you are talking about. I'm not going to argue with a deluded moron. Watch over the next few years as weather disasters happen again and again. I am telling you RIGHT HERE AND NOW, that those disasters will be the DIRECT result of Trump and Musk dismantling the NWS and the NOAA.

If the NWS and the NOAA HAD been operational, the disaster in Texas would NEVER have occurred. Just because something was a one-in-one-hundred year event, DOES NOT MEAN that the people who should have been there to monitor it would have just let it happen. But there was literally no one there to watch as it developed, or provide any warnings at all. All they had were vague projections of things they thought could possibly happen. Since there was no one watching the actual development of the weather system, there was no one to look at things and say "This is going to be dangerous!" which is exactly what they WOULD have said, if they were still intact as an organization

But the WERE NOT. BECAUSE OF TRUMP! TRUMP LIES, and little girls DIED!! That is pure and absolute fact.

[kellyhound]

Officials in Kerr County, Texas — where 27 campers and counselors at a Christian summer camp were killed in catastrophic flooding — had discussed installing a flood warning system along the banks of the Guadalupe River, known as “Flash Flood Alley,” but it was rejected as too expensive.

Kerr County, home to around 50,000 people, had looked into installing sirens, river gauges and other modern communication tools along the waterway in 2017, but ultimately decided against it, the New York Times reported.

“We can do all the water-level monitoring we want, but if we don’t get that information to the public in a timely way, then this whole thing is not worth it,” Kerr County Commissioner Tom Moser said at the time.

But the county, which has an annual budget of around $67 million, lost out on a bid to secure a $1 million grant to fund the project in 2017, county commission meeting minutes show.

It is unclear how much installing a flood warning system would have cost specifically.

Instead, local officials relied on a word-of-mouth system to pass messages about raging floodwaters downriver from the camps upstream.

In a recent interview, Rob Kelly, the Kerr County judge and its most senior elected official, said residents were hesitant about the high cost of a warning system.

Taxpayers won’t pay for it,” he said. Meanwhile, county commissioners discussed using a flood warning system being developed by a regional agency as recently as May, budget meeting minutes show.

A flood warning system was first suggested in 2015 in the wake of deadly floods in Wimberley, Texas, some 75 miles east of Kerrville, the Kerr County seat.

Wimberley, which is located in neighboring Hays County, installed a more sophisticated monitoring system in the wake of the flooding, putting up cell towers to send out notices to all cellphones locally.

The flood warning system in Hays County had a projected cost of $2 million, with $500,000 coming from the Texas Water Development Board in grant funding and the rest coming from the county, the Austin American-Statesman reported.

Former commissioner Moser visited Wimberley to view their new flood system and came back to Kerr County to push for a similar strategy.

His proposal would have featured extra water detection systems and ways to alert the public, but budget concerns saw the scheme go nowhere.

“It sort of evaporated. It just didn’t happen,” he told.

He admitted that he “didn’t know” if people might reconsider their position in light of the recent tragedy.

Moser admitted it isn’t certain that a flood warning system like the one he proposed a decade ago would have prevented the recent tragedy in the county, which has seen more than 100 killed, including some 28 children — but he does believe it would have made a difference.

“I think it could have helped a lot of people,” he said.

The area is known as “Flash Flood County” because of its unique combination of weather patterns, soil and lack of green space.

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[CharlotteWatson]

Originally Posted by William May ↗

Your idea of how weather forecasts work, is total and utter B.S. I KNOW U.S. meteorologists, and how they work, and what they look at. The stuff you think is for 1000 year projections has NOTHING to do with them. They do an EXCELLENT JOB forecasting the weather, or at least they did before the NWS and NOAA got gutted.

If you EVER heard a weather warning on TV or radio (and I KNOW YOU HAVE!) you would understand that THOSE WERE ALL LACKING IN THE TEXAS WEATHER SITUATION, because there were no government meteorologists to look at the incoming data, and NONE were generated. What limited warnings were issued DID NOT take into account the actual weather situation, just simple forecasts with no input from the NWS or the NOAA.

BOTH of those organizations present the weather data they receive, and they did it ACCURATELY.

Your mention of the "Deep State" (which is completely imaginary and doesn't exist) tells me instantly that you have no clue at all about what you are talking about. I'm not going to argue with a deluded moron. Watch over the next few years as weather disasters happen again and again. I am telling you RIGHT HERE AND NOW, that those disasters will be the DIRECT result of Trump and Musk dismantling the NWS and the NOAA.

If the NWS and the NOAA HAD been operational, the disaster in Texas would NEVER have occurred. Just because something was a one-in-one-hundred year event, DOES NOT MEAN that the people who should have been there to monitor it would have just let it happen. But there was literally no one there to watch as it developed, or provide any warnings at all. All they had were vague projections of things they thought could possibly happen. Since there was no one watching the actual development of the weather system, there was no one to look at things and say "This is going to be dangerous!" which is exactly what they WOULD have said, if they were still intact as an organization

But the WERE NOT. BECAUSE OF TRUMP! TRUMP LIES, and little girls DIED!! That is pure and absolute fact.

[HIGHTECHDUDE]

Originally Posted by William May ↗

... BECAUSE OF TRUMP! TRUMP LIES, and little girls DIED!! That is pure and absolute fact.

[sincerelywithlove]

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

Now at least 52 people have died due to catastrophic flash flooding in Central Texas, with 15 children among the deceased. The majority of fatalities, 43, occurred in Kerr County.

50 minute time lapse of the Llano River and san gabriel river destroying parts of Georgetown.

That land is the river's now. Keep it that way for God's sake.

[Lurker84]

Originally Posted by zhazoo ↗

Whelp, looks like some cult members got to meet their "maker."

The "saddest" thing is that the parents indoctrinated their kids with some bullshit god stuff and now they're dead.

You do realize you are part of a cult yourself, right?

[Massacreman]

Originally Posted by shazrand ↗

Why? I’m not the one who got molested.

Good lord, you're a dick but I did laugh.

[DarkSighted]

Heh.... I heard the term 'TDS' and for the longest time I thought it was an affliction of those hyper-gullible and brutally dumbed down enough to take anything (and apparently everything) the Great Orange Asshat says, seriously. I mean... let's see: misogynist, pathological liar, ignorant AND unwise, multiple felon. Could easily add a dozen more points like that about the guy, but that's a nice succinct list and not even insulting: 'definition' of character, perhaps. Imagine my shock when I found out TDS was actually a term used by folks who actually LIKE someone like that, to describe those who can see him for what he is, and say it- perhaps overloud and surely scattershot, but would you whisper 'fire' in a burning theater? No, you'd scream it. When I discover I'm talking to a trumper, at some point I casually ask if they're learning chinese or russian to keep up with impendings. I'd lean toward the former because they'll win in the long run, but at least russian has an alphabet of sorts, so you're more likely to be able to learn to read and write it, not just speak it.

[kellyhound]

121 people killed with 166 individuals still considered missing.