[mkianni]

I just found this today. I've been stuck here for two hours so far. I've honestly never heard of the guy.

I find this kind of stuff extremely interesting to the point where I'll even use Google earth to find the places where the bodies were found or where the crimes took place. I may need a psychiatrist myself.

Once again thank you Amy for an amazing body of information and the amount of time it must of taken you to put that all together.

[Amy]

Originally Posted by mkianni ↗

I just found this today. I've been stuck here for two hours so far. I've honestly never heard of the guy.

I find this kind of stuff extremely interesting to the point where I'll even use Google earth to find the places where the bodies were found or where the crimes took place. I may need a psychiatrist myself.

Once again thank you Amy for an amazing body of information and the amount of time it must of taken you to put that all together.

Most welcome! I google earthed too. Shhhhh. We can obsess together! :)

[mkianni]

Originally Posted by Amy ↗

Most welcome! I google earthed too. Shhhhh. We can obsess together! :)

The KFC in Headingley in still there!

[mkianni]

Just a couple of pictures related to the case that I thought were interesting.

Rita Rytka, Helen's twin sister, assisting lead investigator George Oldfield shortly after Helen's death at Garrards timber yard.

[Amy]

Awesome! Thanks!

[Clubhouse]

The strange life of Sonia Sutcliffe.

THE Yorkshire Ripper’s wife still visits him in jail even though he claims her latest husband is jealous of their continuing friendship.


Sonia Sutcliffe recently in Bradford and, right, with killer Peter a year before his arrest.

It must count as one of the more improbable tug-of-love scenarios you could imagine: serial killer detained for life brands his former wife’s current husband “jealous and insecure” for putting his ex under pressure to ration her trips to see him behind bars.

Peter Sutcliffe, 69, the Yorkshire Ripper, apparently blames the influence of Michael Woodward, the hairdresser his former wife Sonia married in 1997, for persuading the 64-year-old to cut back on her monthly visits to Broadmoor.

“Sonia still goes to see him occasionally although Peter has complained it is less often,” says an insider.

“He thinks her husband Michael can’t accept they are still friends after all this time. He calls him jealous and insecure and blames him for coming between them.”

Sutcliffe’s continuing affection for Sonia is such that he recently used his weekly ceramics class to make her a figurine of her favourite pop star Elvis Presley.

And the woman who was wooed by him as a shy 16-year-old seems equally unable to let him go completely.


Sutcliffe on his wedding day in August 1974.


The daughter of Czech refugees Sonia first met her husband-to-be after defying her father’s orders not to go to a pub disco.

Sutcliffe was four years older and after dropping out of school at 15 had had a string of menial jobs before becoming a lorry driver.

Sonia’s studies to become a teacher were interrupted by treatment for schizophrenia and she had a reputation for being prickly and demanding.

One author claimed she was prone to “unprovoked outbursts of rage”, resulting in Sutcliffe having to “contain her physically by pinning her arms to her side”.


Sonia Sutcliffe still lives in the house that the couple shared during his reign of terror.

It is also said that, far from being dominated by her murderous spouse, she could cow him instantly with a hissed “Peter!” Sonia has always denied having any knowledge of her then husband’s crimes until she confronted him at Dewsbury police station after he was arrested in 1981 and the couple had the following extraordinary exchange: “What on earth is going on Peter?”

“It’s me. I’m the Yorkshire Ripper. I killed all those women.”

“What on earth did you do that for Peter?”

Many women would have responded to such a revelation by devoting the rest of their lives to erasing all memories of the monster they married.

Not Sonia.

Apart from visiting him regularly to this day, she remained married to him for 13 years following his arrest, only divorcing him in 1994.

She met her second husband Michael at Stage Door 2, the Bradford salon where he worked, in the mid-1990s.

At this point she was – financially at least – an eligible divorcee.

In the years since her husband’s conviction she had won at least nine libel actions against newspapers.


Sutcliffe's sick killing spree claimed the lives of 13 people.

Her most impressive pay day came in 1989 at the expense of the satirical magazine Private Eye, ordered to pay her damages of £600,000 for falsely alleging that she had sought to profit from her fame as the wife of a serial killer.

This prompted the Eye’s editor Ian Hislop’s now celebrated comment: “If this is justice I’m a banana.”

The Appeal Court agreed and slashed Sonia’s damages to £60,000.

By the time Sonia met Michael – nine years her junior – she had amassed £370,000 in libel damages, a total that was dented, admittedly, by a failed action against the now defunct News Of The World in 1990, which cost her £150,000 in legal costs.

She and Michael married in 1997 and moved into a flat in a converted mill in Saltaire on the River Aire in west Yorkshire.


Sutcliffe is currently a prisoner at Broadmoor Institute for the Criminally Insane.

This might have offered an opportunity for one of Britain’s most infamous houses to be removed.

Local councils now often buy up the homes of notorious murderers then raze them.

The home of serial killer Fred West in Gloucester was demolished in 1996 and Soham double killer Ian Huntley’s house was flattened in 2004.

But the three-storey detached house on Garden Lane in the Bradford district of Heaton that was once the home of the Sutcliffes not only remains standing but is now reoccupied by Sonia.

Part of her reluctance to dispose of the property may well be financial.

The house the Sutcliffes bought in 1977 for £16,000 is now worth around £200,000 but, should Sonia sell it, the Legal Aid Trust is likely to claim her ex-husband’s share.

The first reports that she had moved back into Garden Lane came in 2005 when it was assumed that she and Woodward had broken up.

But as recently as 2010 she contacted one newspaper to put the record straight.

“She confirmed that she and Mr Woodward are in an on-going monogamous marriage,” it said in a correction.

To this day she parks her car in the garage where Sutcliffe stored the 30 weapons, including hammers, spanners and screwdrivers, he used to murder 13 women in a six-year killing spree.

She cooks her meals in the kitchen that houses the sink in which he once washed the bloodied clothes he wore while carrying out his depraved crimes.

It would hardly be surprising if her second husband did want her to end her trips to a certain mental hospital in Berkshire.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/614...ospital-prison

[Steve]

Originally Posted by Clubhouse ↗

The strange life of Sonia Sutcliffe.

THE Yorkshire Ripper’s wife still visits him in jail even though he claims her latest husband is jealous of their continuing friendship.


Sonia Sutcliffe recently in Bradford and, right, with killer Peter a year before his arrest.

It must count as one of the more improbable tug-of-love scenarios you could imagine: serial killer detained for life brands his former wife’s current husband “jealous and insecure” for putting his ex under pressure to ration her trips to see him behind bars.

Peter Sutcliffe, 69, the Yorkshire Ripper, apparently blames the influence of Michael Woodward, the hairdresser his former wife Sonia married in 1997, for persuading the 64-year-old to cut back on her monthly visits to Broadmoor.

“Sonia still goes to see him occasionally although Peter has complained it is less often,” says an insider.

“He thinks her husband Michael can’t accept they are still friends after all this time. He calls him jealous and insecure and blames him for coming between them.”

Sutcliffe’s continuing affection for Sonia is such that he recently used his weekly ceramics class to make her a figurine of her favourite pop star Elvis Presley.

And the woman who was wooed by him as a shy 16-year-old seems equally unable to let him go completely.


Sutcliffe on his wedding day in August 1974.


The daughter of Czech refugees Sonia first met her husband-to-be after defying her father’s orders not to go to a pub disco.

Sutcliffe was four years older and after dropping out of school at 15 had had a string of menial jobs before becoming a lorry driver.

Sonia’s studies to become a teacher were interrupted by treatment for schizophrenia and she had a reputation for being prickly and demanding.

One author claimed she was prone to “unprovoked outbursts of rage”, resulting in Sutcliffe having to “contain her physically by pinning her arms to her side”.


Sonia Sutcliffe still lives in the house that the couple shared during his reign of terror.

It is also said that, far from being dominated by her murderous spouse, she could cow him instantly with a hissed “Peter!” Sonia has always denied having any knowledge of her then husband’s crimes until she confronted him at Dewsbury police station after he was arrested in 1981 and the couple had the following extraordinary exchange: “What on earth is going on Peter?”

“It’s me. I’m the Yorkshire Ripper. I killed all those women.”

“What on earth did you do that for Peter?”

Many women would have responded to such a revelation by devoting the rest of their lives to erasing all memories of the monster they married.

Not Sonia.

Apart from visiting him regularly to this day, she remained married to him for 13 years following his arrest, only divorcing him in 1994.

She met her second husband Michael at Stage Door 2, the Bradford salon where he worked, in the mid-1990s.

At this point she was – financially at least – an eligible divorcee.

In the years since her husband’s conviction she had won at least nine libel actions against newspapers.


Sutcliffe's sick killing spree claimed the lives of 13 people.

Her most impressive pay day came in 1989 at the expense of the satirical magazine Private Eye, ordered to pay her damages of £600,000 for falsely alleging that she had sought to profit from her fame as the wife of a serial killer.

This prompted the Eye’s editor Ian Hislop’s now celebrated comment: “If this is justice I’m a banana.”

The Appeal Court agreed and slashed Sonia’s damages to £60,000.

By the time Sonia met Michael – nine years her junior – she had amassed £370,000 in libel damages, a total that was dented, admittedly, by a failed action against the now defunct News Of The World in 1990, which cost her £150,000 in legal costs.

She and Michael married in 1997 and moved into a flat in a converted mill in Saltaire on the River Aire in west Yorkshire.


Sutcliffe is currently a prisoner at Broadmoor Institute for the Criminally Insane.

This might have offered an opportunity for one of Britain’s most infamous houses to be removed.

Local councils now often buy up the homes of notorious murderers then raze them.

The home of serial killer Fred West in Gloucester was demolished in 1996 and Soham double killer Ian Huntley’s house was flattened in 2004.

But the three-storey detached house on Garden Lane in the Bradford district of Heaton that was once the home of the Sutcliffes not only remains standing but is now reoccupied by Sonia.

Part of her reluctance to dispose of the property may well be financial.

The house the Sutcliffes bought in 1977 for £16,000 is now worth around £200,000 but, should Sonia sell it, the Legal Aid Trust is likely to claim her ex-husband’s share.

The first reports that she had moved back into Garden Lane came in 2005 when it was assumed that she and Woodward had broken up.

But as recently as 2010 she contacted one newspaper to put the record straight.

“She confirmed that she and Mr Woodward are in an on-going monogamous marriage,” it said in a correction.

To this day she parks her car in the garage where Sutcliffe stored the 30 weapons, including hammers, spanners and screwdrivers, he used to murder 13 women in a six-year killing spree.

She cooks her meals in the kitchen that houses the sink in which he once washed the bloodied clothes he wore while carrying out his depraved crimes.

It would hardly be surprising if her second husband did want her to end her trips to a certain mental hospital in Berkshire.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/614...ospital-prison

I would have assumed she would have been hounded out, I am not suggesting she knew what Sutcliffe was up to but the stigma still remains. I would have thought too that the house would have been torched, if he had murdered one of my loved ones it would have crossed my mind to torch the place, but that's just me.

[Amy]

Originally Posted by Top Gear ↗

I would have assumed she would have been hounded out, I am not suggesting she knew what Sutcliffe was up to but the stigma still remains. I would have thought too that the house would have been torched, if he had murdered one of my loved ones it would have crossed my mind to torch the place, but that's just me.

Or torn down.

[Steve]

Originally Posted by Amy ↗

Or torn down.

I guess she doesn't mind people constantly taking photos of her house, there will be people sight seeing on a regular basis. I would take a few snaps if I could. Ghoulish but interesting all the same.

[Amy]

Originally Posted by Top Gear ↗

I guess she doesn't mind people constantly taking photos of her house, their will be people sight seeing on a regular basis. I would take a few snaps if I could. Ghoulish but interesting all the same.

Same. Many locations like that get destroyed to bring peace ba k to the town.