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03-27-2011, 04:15 PM
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Ju. 87 Stuka G 'tank Killer' Variant
German newsreel with gun cam of stuka ace Hans-Ulrich Rudel on the eastern front, he had over 500 kills... how do you make a machine that was obsolete at the beginning of the war last until the end??? put some big ass guns on it, they were 37mm cannons <iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ZuYzfyG4SgU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> here is a link to a site with his information. http://www.achtungpanzer.com/gen9.htm  ·  · |
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03-28-2011, 02:36 PM
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Re: Ju. 87 Stuka G 'tank Killer' Variant
yes many did, but the stuka was nearly obsolete by the time the war started, low speed, limited roles, and fixed landing gear, it was an excellent ground attack fighter and an AWFUL head to head fighter, they pulled it from the battle of brittan for a reason,just remember germany invaded france with training tanks and still had a biplane dive bomber flying in use along with the stuka at the start, the french had better tanks, planes, and weapons, but it was tactics that won. this g-variant stuka was specific in its purpose and had a top speed of only 193mph and meant for tank killing on the russian front after 1943, by that time the number of russian tanks was staggering and the germans needed to be able to get up close and take em out with minimal effort in addition after march 43 their aircraft fuel supplies were DRASTICALLY cut and going on long bombing missions and other costly things were no longer an option, and thus this fit the role and circumstances perfectly as it could go on short missions with a high success rate with minimal fuel and low chance of enemy fighters but it was a sitting duck to any fighters it would have encountered Luftwaffe war diaries-amazing book tons of stats and first hand accounts Strange Defeat, is also a great book detailing from the French side how they lost due to the inability to cope with the blitz tactics despite superior weaponry |
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03-29-2011, 01:47 AM
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Re: Ju. 87 Stuka G 'tank Killer' Variant
That's my point though, it still had a specific use as a ground attack platform at which it excelled and its phsycological warfare value only became greater. It also had a higher top speed and could carry a larger weapons payload than the bi-planes still in service. The modern day equivalent is like putting an A-10 against an F-22, both are powerful aircraft but they have different roles to play. |
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03-29-2011, 04:26 PM
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Re: Ju. 87 Stuka G 'tank Killer' Variant
true, different roles, there were redesigns to replace but, but it would cost too much, the a-10 is this things grand child, i wanna fly one when i sign up for the airforce, more so it would be fun to fly one of these along a traffic jammed freeway and then post the video on here for others to enjoy  |
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03-30-2011, 12:46 AM
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Re: Ju. 87 Stuka G 'tank Killer' Variant
Did you know the US airforce was going to retire the A-10 about 20 years ago, then the Gulf war part 1 started and they had no replacement for it so they kept it. Only recently has its true potential and worth been understood.
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03-30-2011, 01:12 AM
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Re: Ju. 87 Stuka G 'tank Killer' Variant
that thing is amazing, ive heard also the b-52 is estimated at 100 years of service before they will retire it, russians just brought back the bear into service, essentially their answer to the b-52 but prop driven, the nazis used the he. 111 until the final sortie of the war, i should have said obsolete to its original role, the ability for the stuka to go out and pick off ground targets in its fashion has revolutionized ground war to this day, amazing how most people have no idea how old many 'modern tactics' are, i have s good vid of stuka usage in 44 or 45 with the sturmtiger in warsaw, that building went down
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