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08-07-2011, 11:39 PM
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 My Rank: SERGEANT MAJOR Poster Rank:272 roneluv Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 4,775 Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Quoted: 674 Post(s)
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Re: Flowers in the Gun Barrel
Don't sweat. this is an ignorant, out of touch jew who enjoys carly simon's "let the river run," as well as promoting his biased opinions.
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08-08-2011, 12:12 AM
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 Benevolent dictator Poster Rank:57 Arse fucker Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 25,643 Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Quoted: 1450 Post(s)
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Re: Flowers in the Gun Barrel
Yeah, it is my own fault for thinking that most people are better informed about events like this. I thought what i posted was common knowledge, apparently i am misinformed.  By his rekoning the USA still belongs to the fucking indians, and Australia is still owned by the fucking abos. |
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08-08-2011, 01:10 AM
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 So Fucking Banned Poster Rank:338 Male Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,766
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Re: Flowers in the Gun Barrel
These are facts: "The Ottoman Empire capitulated on 30 October 1918, and on 23 November 1918, a military edict was issued dividing Ottoman territories into "occupied enemy territories" (OET). The Middle East was divided into three OETs. Occupied Enemy Territory South extended from the Egyptian border of Sinai into Palestine and Lebanon as far north as Acre and Nablus and as far east as the River Jordan. A temporary British military governor (Major General, Sir Arthur Wigram Money) would administer this sector" "The open negotiations began at the Paris Peace Conference, continued at the Conference of London and took definite shape only after the San Remo conference in April 1920. There the Allied Supreme Council granted the mandates for Palestine and Mesopotamia to Britain, and those for Syria and Lebanon to France. In August 1920, this was officially acknowledged in the Treaty of Sèvres. Both Zionist and Arab representatives attended the conference, where they met and signed an agreement to cooperate. The agreement was never implemented." It is from these events that the British Mandate for Palestinian territory became established.  The Sykes-Picot Agreement did not call for Arab sovereignty, but for the "suzerainty of an Arab chief" and "an international administration, the form of which is to be decided upon after consultation with Russia, and subsequently in consultation with the other allies, and the representatives of the Sherif of Mecca." Under the terms of that agreement, the Zionist Organization needed to secure an agreement along the lines of the Faisal-Weizmann Agreement with the Sherif of Mecca. At the Peace Conference in 1919, Emir Faisal, speaking on behalf of King Hussein, asked for Arab independence, or at minimum the right to pick the mandatory. In the end, he recommended an Arab state under a British mandate. The World Zionist Organization also asked for a British mandate, and asserted the 'historic title of the Jewish people to Palestine'. It was later that this map was revised with most of the original land which was east of Jordan being reserved for Arab Muslims with Jews being allowed only west of Jordan. So this is the map proposed by the World Zionist Organization:  Far from Jews being the expansionist imperialists that Muslims love to portray them as they were from the beginning quite willing to make agreements that were very generous. And far from buying land for Jews as you seem to be saying the Ottoman Empire capitulated and gave up the land. Before that Jews had already for years been buying the land in that area and turning desert areas into productive farms. "The area east of the Jordan River 'was included in the areas as to which Great Britain [sic] pledged itself that they should be Arab and independent in the future'. At the 1919 Peace Conference, the Zionist Organization's claims did not include any territory east of the Hedjaz Railway. The Faisal-Weizmann Agreement provided that the boundaries between the Arab state and Palestine should be determined by a commission after the Paris Peace Conference." "Under the terms of the McMahon-Hussein correspondence and Sykes-Picot agreements, the land east of the Jordan was to be part of an Arab state or confederation of Arab states part of the purpose of which was to create an Arab territory east of the Jordan River. When the Inter-Allied Conference at San Remo adjourned in April 1920, the text of the Palestine mandate did not contain Article 25, or mention "the territories lying between the Jordan and the eastern boundary of Palestine as ultimately determined". Sanford Silverburg said that "a Palestine" within the western political understanding of the term simply never existed." He observed that the failure to establish a western-based territorial element or frame of reference had clouded discussions and cited the claim that Transjordan had been detached from Palestine as a non-sequitur" More proof? "The two most significant decisions of the conference were to offer the throne of Iraq to Emir Faisal ibn Hussein (who became Faisal I of Iraq) and an emirate of Transjordan (now Jordan) to his brother Abdullah ibn Hussein (who became Abdullah I of Jordan). Transjordan was to be constituted as an Arab province of Palestine. The conference provided the political blueprint for British administration in both Iraq and Transjordan, and in offering these two regions to the sons of Sharif Hussein ibn Ali of the Hedjaz, Churchill believed that the spirit, if not the letter, of Britain's wartime promises to the Arabs might be fulfilled. After further discussions between Churchill and Abdullah in Jerusalem, it was mutually agreed that Transjordan was accepted into the mandatory area with the proviso that it would be, initially for six months, under the nominal rule of the Emir Abdullah and would not form part of the Jewish national home to be established west of the River Jordan" "From that point onwards, Britain administered the 23% west of the Jordan as "Palestine", and the 77% east of the Jordan as "Transjordan." The subsequent two mandates were administrated under one single British Foreign Office High Commissioner" And so it is that of the entire Palestinian Territory 23% was then cut off to become the State of Israel with Arabs getting the remainder. You would think that the Arabs would now be happy? Right? They got the majority of the land. But it was not enough. "During and after World War I, Britain made conflicting and shifting commitments regarding the future division and governance of the region, including those announced in the Balfour Declaration of 1917, the Sykes-Picot Agreement, the Hussein-McMahon correspondence, and the Churchill White Paper of 1922. At the San Remo conference, the boundaries of the mandated territories were not precisely defined." Britain began to renege on it's agreements. "The British Foreign Secretary, Lord Curzon, together with the Italian and French governments rejected early drafts of the mandate because it had contained a passage which read: "Recognizing, moreover, the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and the claim which this gives them to reconstitute it their national home..." "In 1937 a British Royal Commission headed by Lord Peel proposed solving the Arab-Jewish conflict by partitioning Palestine into two states. The Jewish leadership rejected the plan and developed an alternate proposal.[62] The US Consul General at Jerusalem told the State Department that the Mufti had refused the principle of partition and declined to consider it. The Consul said that the Emir Abdullah urged acceptance on the ground that realities must be faced, but wanted modification of the proposed boundaries and Arab administrations in the neutral enclave. The Consul also noted that Nashashibi side-stepped the principle, but was willing to negotiate for favourable modifications." And so we have the UN partition plan:  And Israel is now reduced to about 10% of the original mandate. You would think that this should solve the problem right? Only 10% of the original mandate. They don't even get the best parts. 67 percent of their new homeland is desert. Worthless sand and rocks. "On 29 November, the UN General Assembly voted 33 to 13, with 10 abstentions, in favour of the Partition Plan, while making some adjustments to the boundaries between the two states proposed by it. The division was to take effect on the date of British withdrawal. It is important to note that the UN General Assembly is only granted the power to make recommendations, therefore, UNGAR 181 was not legally binding. Both the U.S. and the Soviet Union supported the resolution. Haiti, Liberia, and the Philippines changed their votes at the last moment after concerted pressure from the U.S. and from Zionist organisations. The five members of the Arab League who were voting members at the time voted against the Plan." "The Jewish Agency, which was the Jewish state-in-formation, accepted the plan, and nearly all the Jews in Palestine rejoiced at the news. Israeli history books mention 29 November as the most important date in the creation of Israel as it refers to UNGA 181 of 1947 Partition of the Mandate of Palestine into two states and whereof Israel's Proclamation of Independence refers to UNGA 181 as its source of sovereignty in Ph's 9 & 15" "The partition plan was rejected out of hand by Palestinian Arab leaders and by most of the Arab population. Meeting in Cairo in November and December 1947, the Arab League then adopted a series of resolutions aimed at a military solution to the conflict." "The partition plan was rejected out of hand by Palestinian Arab leaders and by most of the Arab population. Meeting in Cairo in November and December 1947, the Arab League then adopted a series of resolutions aimed at a military solution to the conflict." -- Yasser Arafat (1980) "Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an all-out war, a war which will last for generations." In May 2001, two 13-year-old boys, Kobi Mandell and Yosef Ish-ram, went for a short hike near their homes in Tekoa. They were set upon, dragged into a cave and beaten to death with rocks. In Egypt, it was reported that the two lads were "Zionist Nazis put to death for crimes against humanity". In Iran the killing was reported as "capture and execution of two terrorists" . Tekoa is the home town of the Prophet Amos, who may once have tended his herd on the very grounds where Kobi and Yosef were hiking. Perhaps in this very place the words came to him: I will restore My people Israel, They shall rebuild ruined cities and inhabit them, They shall plant vineyards and drink their wine, They shall till gardens and eat their fruits, And I will plant them upon their soil, Nevermore to be uprooted From the soil I have given them, Said The Lord your God. (Amos 9:14). |
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08-09-2011, 10:37 PM
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Re: Flowers in the Gun Barrel
John likes to ignore anything that doesn't fit into his narrow vison, like what actually transpired when Israel was offically recognized as a nation..... Not some stupid Torah bullshit. UN is directly responsible for Israel even existing, but in Johns world its an anti semitic organization. |
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08-09-2011, 10:40 PM
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Re: Flowers in the Gun Barrel
Common myths, like anybody actually gives a fuck what your circumsized ass says. Go push your shit elsewhere. |
