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Hani Hanjour - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hani is the man who flew flight 77 into the west facade of the Pentagon, killing all 64 aboard, along with 125 on the ground. Hanjour was an unremarkable pilot who flew an airliner like it was a fighter jet, leading some to believe he was not in fact flying that day.

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i doubt a plane hit the pentagon

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Originally Posted by parasyte ↗

i doubt a plane hit the pentagon

Have you seen that footage of the mystery plane in restricted air space over the pentagon prior to the strike?

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Oh, I'm not saying a plane didn't hit the pentagon, I don't know what did. I am unsure why they won't release the footage from the CCTV's across the street though since that would pretty much end the debate. The footage they did release solved nothing and in fact only added fuel to the fire in my opinion. It probably is the plane in question, but what is that trail following the plane into the pentagon? Conspiracy theorists will tell you that a plane doesn't make that plume below a certain elevation. So who knows, personally I always thought the pentagon was the least disputed, until I looked into it. As for my OP about him not being a very good pilot I am just acknowledging the debate that rages to this day in certain circles.
I say just release the tapes and end it one way or the other.

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No problem, I never mind stating my opinion for the record anyways.

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the 3 main issues for me are

a) it's one of the most secure buildings n the world, and they claim there's no real footage? how the hell does that happen

b) the fuel argument, if the plane was loaded with fuel for maximum damage, why can you see no smoke or fire damage around the crash site, like the clear views of unburned books and furniture and no smoke damage

c) the size of the hole, planes just aint that small, and if you see the holes in the WTC, those holes left space where the wings went into the building, the pentagon hole didnt have any space where the wings passed through, so f the wings didnt pass through and into the building, surely we would have seen some kind of wreckage outside the building. there are pictures of plane parts by the WTC buildings but not by the pentagon?




and on a totally different note, what the fuck were those things attached to the bottom of the planes striking into the WTC buildings? and why did flashes go off inside the building before the planes struck? and why do the fire fighters say hearing explosions like when a building is being demolished?


get get me wrong i'm not a conspiracy theorist, but those are all interesting facts and questions

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As far as I know there is footage of the Pentagon strike, it is from the hotel across the street. Apparently, the workers were all clustered around watching the video when the FBI came in and seized it, issuing gag orders and threats as they took the evidence. They have footage of the strike they just won't show it to us. Instead we get that crappy security booth video which is incorrectly dated for some odd reason and says it's the 12th.

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As for the flash prior to the two strikes, I see no reason not to believe the explanation given by most so-called experts, it was a static discharge from the plane to the building. Due to the unusual nature of 9/11 it is just something we have never seen or thought of before. That explaination makes more sense to me than the idea that it was some kind of weapon discharging or an illusion created by the 'holographic' planes. That theory does more damage to the cause than anything else.

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Ya, smackem, if I found that footage I would be A) a household name B) on the FBI's radar forever and ever. Not to mention a new pariah for the far right and government apologists.

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Also, I believe that what happened to lead up to the events of 9/11 can be put aside in order to examine the government's actions post 9/11, which reek of accessory after the fact. The Taliban and OBL could not have found better dupes and stooges than the Bush administration. For example, the lies of Christie Todd Whitman and the EPA are unforgivable to me and that is just one example.