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The Bystander Effect

Great fuckin post.. thank you for this....
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Thank you. You recognise this famous picture? The starving child is trying to crawl to a nearby food bank. The vulture is waiting for him to die. This photo won a shit load of awards.



What a lot of people don't know, is the photographer did nothing to help. No-one nearby was helping the child so he decided to conform and 'did not want to get involved'. No-ones knows if the child lived or died, but the photographer, Kevin Carter, became the subject of global hatred because he took pictures rather than acting, and he subsequently killed himself from the guilt and public outcry he caused. He was originally waiting for the vulture to swoop but when he realised it wasn't happening, he left the scene with this image.
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Kevin Carter, ya iv read on him.... or something... mabe it was a doc. he ya, he killed himself, thats right... he was also troubled by a college of his that was shot and killed covering a war..... ya that was tragic... all the way around.. tragic
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A different version of the circumstances surrounding the taking of that photo (From Wikipedia)
João Silva, a Portuguese photojournalist based in South Africa who accompanied Carter to Sudan, gave a different version of events in an interview with Japanese journalist and writer Akio Fujiwara that was published in Fujiwara's book The Boy who Became a Postcard (絵葉書にされた少年 - Ehagaki ni sareta shōnen).[5]

According to Silva, Carter and Silva travelled to Sudan with the United Nations aboard Operation Lifeline Sudan and landed in Southern Sudan on 11 March 1993. The UN told them that they would take off again in 30 minutes (the time necessary to distribute food), so they ran around looking to take shots. The UN started to distribute corn and the women of the village came out of their wooden huts to meet the plane. Silva went looking for guerrilla fighters, while Carter strayed no more than a few metres from the plane.

Again according to Silva, Carter was quite shocked as it was the first time that he had seen a famine situation and so he took many shots of the children suffering from famine. Silva also started to take photos of children on the ground as if crying, which were not published. The parents of the children were busy taking food from the plane, so they had left their children only briefly while they collected the food. This was the situation for the girl in the photo taken by Carter. A vulture landed behind the girl. To get the two in focus, Carter approached the scene very slowly so as not to scare the vulture away and took a photo from approximately 10 metres. He took a few more photos before chasing the bird away.

Two Spanish photographers who were in the same area at that time, José María Luis Arenzana and Luis Davilla, without knowing the photograph of Kevin Carter, took a picture in a similar situation. As recounted on several occasions, it was a feeding centre, and the vultures came from a manure pit waste:
"We took him and Pepe Arenzana to Ayod, where most of the time were in a feeding centre where locals go. At one end of the enclosure, was a dump where waste and was pulling people to defecate. As these children are so weak and malnourished they are going ahead giving the impression that they are dead. As part of the fauna there are vultures that go for these remains. So if you grab a telephoto crush the child's perspective in the foreground and background and it seems that the vultures will eat it, but that's an absolute hoax, perhaps the animal is 20 metres."[
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seen a few vids as the above on tv once. fascinating. also group mentality is facinating and people that are quickly in to follow trends/ group behaviour etc. In the last case they found out that people with a high serotonin in their brains are easier to follow trends and influence of group behaviour. They get a strong reward feeling if they follow a group or trend and that makes them feel better, hence why serotonin is called the happiness hormone.
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i don't think we can judge the photographer of the Sudanese child. He has witnessed so many deaths and tragic events it may have overwhelmed him. So rescuing a dying girl may not have been his top priority (as unthinkable as that may sound to us, we have not experienced the horrors he has encountered first hand). He was working in an environment plagued with war and death and we all know that kind setting alters social norms and rational human behavior. I applaud his efforts to bring attention to this forgotten part of the world
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"A person is smart, people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it"
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