[spudigitti]

great doc

[JumboSausage]

If only more of these kids could get into boxing. It definitely teaches them respect and discipline. I see it at my local boxing gym, the kids walk in with attitude and those that stick it out are changed within the year.

Great to see what Hopkins is trying to do now for the fighters. Both himself and Tyson seem genuinely humble about where they're at in life now too.

[Illusion]

I'll just leave this in here.

Ex-heavyweight champ Mike Tyson's advice to aspiring boxers: 'Go to MMA'

[rob666]

Originally Posted by Illusion ↗

I'll just leave this in here.

Ex-heavyweight champ Mike Tyson's advice to aspiring boxers: 'Go to MMA'

So the Fertittas can take your money before yu get the chance to blow it

[Illusion]

Originally Posted by rob666 ↗

So the Fertittas can take your money before yu get the chance to blow it

You always make this brainless attempt to compare fighter pay between the two sports, which from a business standpoint sounds absurd. Boxing has been around in the States for a long time. The UFC, owned by Zuffa has been around for how long? The company has only been making profits since 2007. That's only 8 years ago. Obviously, the pay in the sport of MMA and the UFC has grown sharply over the past years. Give it time.

[Steve]

Originally Posted by Illusion ↗

You always make this brainless attempt to compare fighter pay between the two sports, which from a business standpoint you really cannot and here's why: Boxing has been around in the States for a long time. The ufc owned by Zuffa has been around for how long? The company has only been making profits since 2007. That's only 8 years ago. Obviously, the pay in the sport of MMA and the UFC has grown sharply over the past years. Give it time.

This thread is about boxing not the UFC.

[rob666]

Originally Posted by Illusion ↗

You always make this brainless attempt to compare fighter pay between the two sports, which from a business standpoint you really cannot and here's why: Boxing has been around in the States for a long time. The ufc owned by Zuffa has been around for how long? The company has only been making profits since 2007. That's only 8 years ago. Obviously, the pay in the sport of MMA and the UFC has grown sharply over the past years. Give it time.

Zuffa isn't a publicly traded company, as such they've never had to disclose their financial records to anyone.

We can only hope that the anti trust lawsuits will bring some more of the ugly truth to light.

[rob666]

Originally Posted by JumboSausage ↗

If only more of these kids could get into boxing. It definitely teaches them respect and discipline. I see it at my local boxing gym, the kids walk in with attitude and those that stick it out are changed within the year.

Great to see what Hopkins is trying to do now for the fighters. Both himself and Tyson seem genuinely humble about where they're at in life now too.

Something I've noticed is that a lot of mma gyms seem to be sprinting up everywhere, and it's all profit driven....... Shamelessly profit driven.
I have a problem with that.

Amateur boxing is about just what you mentioned, it's life skills and recreation, getting angry kids into something that gives them a way to channel that anger and make it into something good.
Most gyms don't even charge kids that they know come from troubled backgrounds if they know they can't afford it.

Then I see some mma gyms, and it's charges on top of fees, and instructors that never went anywhere in the sport trying to make a living instructing fighters that will never fight professionally.

[rob666]

Originally Posted by Illusion ↗

Zuffa discloses their box office numbers right after each fight including fight bonuses. How many "anti-trust" lawsuits has Don King (Don King Productions), Bob Arum (Top Rank) Frank Warren (Frank Warren Promotions) been into over the past 4 decades? Because we all know Don King and Bob Arum are the most trusted promoters in sports and give a fuck about the well-being and future of boxing?

Disclosing your gate attendance is a lot fucking different than a complete financial disclosure.
They can claim they didn't turn a profit until 2007, but unless their financial records become public due to the court cases we'll never know.

The basis of the lawsuits the ufc has been hit with are a lot different than those faced by any boxing promotors.

In any case the purses alone should be sufficient evidence for anyone with a quarter of a brain that something is seriously wrong.
When mayweather is projected to make 5x more for this fight than GSP made his whole career, and you see nothing wrong with this, I think that speaks for itself.

[rob666]

Originally Posted by Illusion ↗

You seem to take this very personal with your brainless attempts to compare fighter pay with a company that's only been profitable in the last 8 years. How many boxers make Mayweather money? The reality is if you look at this Dawson / Ward fight, I think (Ward) made about $1.6 million and Dawson made $600,000. That's a big fight outside of a Pacquiao / Floyd fight.


Take the time to watch the Jim Norton Show, as he sits down with boxing legend Mike Tyson and UFC President Dana White.

Your complete inability to see the correlation between the revenue generated from a fight card and the fighters purses illustrates that you have no clue what you are talking about.

I don't think you could swallow Dana whites cock fast enough lol.