[Sibella]

Originally Posted by ferris209 ↗

Where is it stated that the FBI search was related at all to Paddock?

Google him. He is being called a "witness" and the FBI is supposed to release details of why they were there in 10 days. Supposedly it has to do with a phone charger or some shit. Either way, his death is bogus.

[OhJstFkOffAlrdy]

Originally Posted by GODISNOTGREAT ↗

I go to music festivals like every month and i dont see anybody walking around strapped like john wayne man this is all propaganda that you are safer with guns than you are without guns. If you want to defend your home, get a six shooter. Nobody needs these crazy ass guns. This isnt call of duty.

Okay, maybe I wasn't clear enough: Anyone with a brain can tell you that guns don't "make you safe." I also didn't claim that they did. And no, most people will never be put into a situation where they have to use a gun to defend themselves. But shit happens sometimes, and firearms can be an equalizer there. Who are you to tell someone that you know their future enough to predict and dictate what that person's self-defense needs may be. Your comment about six-shooters suggests ignorance.

Paddock's weapons had also been modified with devices that quite frankly should have been illegal, but weren't due to loopholes created by specifically-worded laws. You can't just go out and buy fully-automatic weaponry right off the shelf. It doesn't work like that.

You also don't have to be that smart to make bombs. Eric Harris, one of the Columbine shooters, was doing that shit in high school without the aid of today's internet. Had he started learning that craft a few years earlier, he and Klebold's original plan would have claimed hundreds of lives in just a few short seconds. Also, look at Timothy McVeigh: Much bigger bomb made by a guy who wasn't all that smart or experienced, using unrestricted materials and constructed without the aid of a vast network of easily-accessed information on the subject. It's just chemical reactions; it isn't rocket science. High school chemistry labs dabble in the same shit, just on a much smaller scale.

You also don't *know* who at those festivals were armed. I wouldn't know either because I wasn't there, but that's you assuming consistent and effective security across all of those events. The Manchester Arena bombing proves that there are holes in security. I'm not saying that anyone in those settings who had been armed could have done anything to stop a mass shooter (I've already stated my point to the negative there); I'm just saying that while you didn't see, you most likely did not actually *know.*

Just be glad Paddock didn't have a 24' box truck with reinforced glass and steel plates drilled into the interior of the doors (he had the time and money to do it). From the videos I've seen, it wouldn't have been hard for him to just run over the fences at the Vegas Village and start plowing through people. 86 people were killed and another 400+ were wounded in the Nice attacks, and it's MUCH easier in America to rent a truck than it is to buy a gun.

The simple fact is that when you look at the actual numbers, we don't have a gun epidemic in America. We don't have a catastrophically-high rate of the kind of mass shootings like Aurora and Vegas and Virginia Tech. In smaller countries, yes, those numbers would be staggering; that would be like every mass shooting in recent American history occuring in just one state. But when you factor in suicides, accidents, gang-related street crime, personal disputes that turn violent, and similar focused individual incidents (comparable rates of which can be found in all stable first-world societies, guns or no guns) that involved guns and compare them against the population, the sky immediately stops looking like it's falling.

So yeah, it sucks that people can do shit like what Paddock did, but that's just how it goes when assholes decide to start attacking and killing random people. The problem will always be, first and foremost, a problem of people.

[CousinVinny]

[reaper69316]

200 rounds shot at the guard, I guess he just layed there instead of calling for help and no one else in the hotel called security either. I'm surprised paddock didn't abort his plans not knowing what the response time of the LVPD was going to be to blasting inside the hotel he didn't start shooting the crowed till 6 minutes later.

[paranormal]

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...presser-video/

watch the latest presser and tell me again how "pretty solid" the official story is

[Meridian]

Originally Posted by paranormal ↗

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...presser-video/

watch the latest presser and tell me again how "pretty solid" the official story is

So that tells me what I think we already knew - Paddock had a potentially bigger attack planned and was interrupted - we know this because of the explosives in his car he never used.

The fact the guard interrupted before the shooting started and not after doesn’t indicate some great cover up, only confused timelines and facts given to a press and public hungry for answers. Simple mistake, no big deal.

There is a huge ongoing investigation with no doubt hundreds of people following lines on enquiry whilst being hounded for new info by the press. There will be confusion.

I don’t see how doubting the police helps anything? It doesn’t indicate anything more damning than a communication issue.

[TheVrist]

The only thing confusing things is media trying to build a narrative around what info is available.

[cutthroatslim]

Originally Posted by TheVrist ↗

The only thing confusing things is media trying to build a narrative around what info is available.

nah, the only thing, confusing thing, is the way you worded that response mate =)

[Soulform]

Can anyone supply a link to the uncensored version of this video?

[TheVrist]

Originally Posted by cutthroatslim ↗

nah, the only thing, confusing thing, is the way you worded that response mate =)

I'm sorry to have scattered your brain. Here, I'll break it down to a more concise level for you.

The only thing (singular element) confusing things (plural element) is media (the singular element identified) trying to build a narrative around what info is available. (the negative impact on the plural element from the singular element)