[FunkPumpkin]

Originally Posted by mmeroyale ↗

You want to be rational then get through your thick skull that 10 automatic guns in a hotel with the intention of mass murder for the sake of it is fucking rationally impossible to understand unless you're american. It doesn't matter if mine or any other country has crime rates it matters that the gun thing is completely insane.

PS: I didn't even give you the poor talk, thanks again for jumping into conclusions. We're still the 10th richest country in the world with one of the largest populations even after we got robbed of billions.

There used to be Lenny and Squiggy... and your status rhymes with the latter.

[mmeroyale]

Originally Posted by CrunchyCripple ↗

I wonder how this is going to backlash on the singer, who immediately ran and didn't say a word to the audience....

I mean, I understand - fight or flight and all, but people are probably going to hate him for not shouting a warning or SOMETHING before bolting.

I wonder if his career is over....

to be fair neither Eagles of Death Metal or Ariana Grande said anything either.
To be even fairer Ariana wasn't on stage but EODM were and ran too qhen they realized what happened

[FunkPumpkin]

Originally Posted by p33taire ↗

Your comment very accurately explains why the developed world despises and is baffled by US gun-culture. In the face of unparalleled bloodshed, technicalities are cited to deliberately cloud the real issue - the resistance to enforcement of any regulation. This isn't about the second amendment. It's commerce. Any effort by the government or any organization to dis-enthral the American public to the uncivil appeal of firearms is fought by the firearm lobby by all means it can muster.

I may not support gun-obsession, but I know more than you think.
You are wrong in believing that you cannot own fully automatic weapons in the United States - many states outlaw them absolutely, but not all. And legally, it only applies to weapons manufactured before May of 1986. A Class III dealer i.e., FFL01+SOT can sell to you or transfer ownership to you of a machine gun once you complete the (year-long) FBI and BATFE background checks. The dealer simply fills out the Form 4 and you pay him the $200 NFA transfer stamp tax. It might take a while, but it's very possible.
My entire family are gun-enthusiasts and NRA members; my less-than-beloved uncle is a registered Class III gun dealer who legally operates domestically and internationally; he regularly and legally transfers ownership or sells military weaponry to US citizens and clients abroad (e.g., foreign government law enforcement or military specialists in countries with whom it is legal to conduct business.)

But legality isn't the point, is it? There are always conversions of firearms to fully automatic regularly, illegally or not. The NRA and it's lobby will never make an effort to suggest limitations on gun ownership for any reason, despite the need for enforceable registration and some form of legal license renewal. You need it for possessing a lion or a tiger - you need it for gun ownership too. I already know the response, but go ahead - insult away.

Snowflake, until you can use punctuation and/or paragraph structure... please, piss off.

[mmeroyale]

Originally Posted by FunkPumpkin ↗

There used to be Lenny and Squiggy... and your status rhymes with the latter.

why don't you go exercise your second amendment right buy a gun and shoot yourself? bye

[trollbridge]

Is there any chance there was a second (or more) person in the room ? I mean, it sounds like at least two guns firing at the same time in some of the vids based on the acoustic properties of the firearms. I wonder if there is any way that another person could have been helping him all along....? Thoughts?

[Loop1]

Here's a photo of one of the victims.

[Silky]

WTF that's my brother-in-law in the 2nd photo holding that AR! He told us he was just directing traffic.

[ferris209]

Originally Posted by Silky ↗

WTF that's my brother-in-law in the 2nd photo holding that AR! He told us he was just directing traffic.

We're not in the habit of telling our families what we really do most of the time.

[Silky]

With how many phones were running, how much video captured, and how many people were hit, I haven't seen any where people actually get hit.

I guess we're not on Brazils level yet.

[Sibella]

Originally Posted by Loop1 ↗

Here's a photo of one of the victims.

Damn..& looks like he's holding a beer can in his hand