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09-04-2014, 05:16 AM
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| So Fucking Banned Poster Rank:3458 Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 102 Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Quoted: 39 Post(s)
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Re: Pictures of Michael Brown Dead in Street
Speaking the truth does not make you racist. I live in sub-Saharan Africa. The behaviour you're seeing in parts of the US right now has nothing to do with "white privilege", oppression or the legacy of slavery. When the blacks here have a grievance or feel personally slighted (which is most of the time as their sense of entitlement in Africa is NO different to what it is in First World countries), the first thing they do is turn to violence. Stoning cars, hacking each other up with pangas (machetes), setting everything in sight on fire and destroying anything and everything. The other day I couldn't even go through town to a client meeting due to the fact that university students were "protesting". For protesting, read stoning vehicles, looting, fighting and burning. http://www.amren.com/news/2014/08/to...ook-to-africa/ |
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#132
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09-04-2014, 05:40 AM
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Re: Pictures of Michael Brown Dead in Street
Some folks here obviously need it spelled out for them |
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#133
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09-04-2014, 09:29 AM
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Re: Pictures of Michael Brown Dead in Street
Let me start by saying that I have always felt terrible for atrocities committed against racial and ethnic groups throughout history. Be it the holocaust, trail of tears, slavery and segregation. But as I get older I have a hard time feeling sorry for the black/white racial issue the media keeps pointing out. The reason is behind these issues is not race it is poverty and subculture. Research in to the street subculture has shown their exists a set of different values that set them apart from other cultures. Walter Miller identified six “focal concerns” or “values” that have high priority for young males: 1. Trouble. Chronic anxiety over possible confrontation with law enforcement personnel and the consequences of illegal behavior. Staying out of “trouble” is a major, practical concern of many lower-class people. 2. Toughness. The exhibition of physical prowess; fearlessness; masculinity. Miller saw this kind of posturing as extremely important to lower-class boys who come from female-based households (dominant mothers and absent fathers) and who are trying to establish a male identity. Thus, they equate femininity with weakness. 3. Smartness. Display of verbal agility; quick-wittedness; ability to outsmart. 4. Excitement. Thrill-seeking; taking a chance; fighting over women. 5. Fate. A tendency to trust in luck; to assume that what will be, will be. 6. Autonomy. The need to feel independent and free from external authority. These values tie in with the other reason I do not really feel bad for this issue and that is opportunity. The question is are there opportunities that exist for people in poverty-especially blacks. The answer is yes although it is not as great obviously as wealthy people. Lower funding in school districts does not always prepare them for college but there are Pell grants that basically pay everything to go to school. There is also financial aid for laptops and other supplies if requested for some people. However, a lot of people just go to college to get the Pell grant and never do the work and even go to the college bookstore to buy a bunch of tablets or things they can sell on the street. So my point is that unlike years ago where people were segregated by race in schools and other places the opportunities exist. It is a choice to be a street thug and go for the easy money or live up to subcultural values. Going the other route is too hard and if you can receive help from the taxpayers why try. There are a lot more blacks that are trying and succeed which we hear less about. Harvard released a study which showed 70% of white people do show some bias against blacks. This came up in an implicit association test where certain words were paired with black faces like dangerous, violent over-reactions. My point is how can they not be? If you are witness to looting and killing it is hard not to feel this way. The shop owners who got their shit fucked up had nothing to do with Michael Brown being shot. Are the people looting those stores really concerned with this guy being dead or taking advantage of the opportunity? It is like Muslim people. With the beheadings as well as obvious hate for anyone other themselves in some factions of this religion it is hard not to be biased toward them. I find it interesting that studies like these are rarely discussed as far as showing the reasons why there is a race issue. For many blacks it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy in that you believe people think they are dangerous and have violent over-reactions so much that they turn around and live up the to that expectation. |
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09-05-2014, 12:14 AM
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Re: Pictures of Michael Brown Dead in Street
annoys the hell out of me when people immediately call it racism when a white officer kills a black man. how do we know its not just a terrible officer with an itchy trigger finger? in this case it doesnt seem like either. anyway,,,,it goes both ways. we need to stop blaming race and stop breaking the damn law
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#137
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09-05-2014, 10:00 AM
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Re: Pictures of Michael Brown Dead in Street
Well, except that most protestors came from outside of Ferguson. And there's been at least 4 drive-by shootings on Hwy 70 in the past month or so. Make no mistake: St. Louis is a war zone.
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09-05-2014, 05:30 PM
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Re: Pictures of Michael Brown Dead in Street
Yup, they do the same shit here. With our media always sure to refer to criminal minded scumbags who are burning, assaulting and looting as "PROTESTERS". They cover this as if it's a logical reaction to a police shooting, be it unjust ( which I don't buy at all ) or whatever. As if it's understandable to show your displeasure with what happened by assaulting innocent people, burning people's stores down, pulling drive byes on people, it's shameful. The media plays the role of both the instigators and the apologist, and worst of all, the consequences for the media's race baiting and rebel rousing are always felt by others, never them! It's absolutely shameful! |