[Zodiac1974]

Thank you jaybo, first logical point of view ive seen posted on this incident so far!

[fapfapfap]

Zodiac, usually I'm on the "defend the cops" side of these things but if you're going to do this you need to at least acknowledge the use of a department-banned choke hold, for the very reason that it can cause an accidental death.

With that being the case it's pretty difficult to judge this as one-sided as you're trying.

[Me_On_Top]

He clearly said he couldn't breathe. Nevermind the fact that placing a victim in a choke-hold violates protocol anyway. Cops fucked up big time on this one I'm afraid.

[Tantrix]

Originally Posted by Zodiac1974 ↗

Let me put a scenario to you that actually happened several years ago in AFRICA. You have access to a gun and you wake up in the middle of the night to find an intruder inside your Kitchen erratically brandishing a knife and heading to your kids bedroom. You have no more than 2 seconds to react as he pushes past you towards your child’s room.
What would you DO?
Most of us would probably try and put him down as quick as possible to protect my children.
Unfortunately, for that guy brandishing the knife, He has just been involved in a serious car accident out the front of your home, his wife was trapped by her seat belt in a burning car and he has broken in to the closest place possible to grab a large kitchen knife to free her. You were in a deep sleep and did not hear him break in, adrenaline is flowing and he needs to pass your child’s room to get back out to his wife.
My point being, Police arrive on scene after crimes have taken place and have to deal with half assessed situations every day.

You can't be serious. I don't give as shit what he broke into my house for, a guy standing in my house with a knife in the middle of the night is going to be shot, then removed by the coroner.

I mean, you find a guy in your house standing there with a knife in his hand is not the time to start a fucking interview with him to figure out why he's in your house.

[kellyhound]

A New York City police officer involved in the arrest of a man who died in custody after being placed in an apparent chokehold has been stripped of his gun and badge and placed on desk duty, police said Saturday.

Officer Daniel Pantaleo, an eight-year NYPD veteran, and an officer who has been with the force for four years were both taken off the street after the death Thursday of 43-year-old Eric Garner on Staten Island, a borough south of Manhattan, police said.

The department would not identify the second officer but said he would retain his gun and badge while on desk duty. The reassignment is effective immediately and will remain in effect while Garner's death is being investigated, police said.

Garner's wife was overcome with grief at a rally in his honor Saturday. Esaw Garner, 46, burst into tears and was escorted from the rally at the Rev. Al Sharpton's National Action Network headquarters in Harlem.

"This is going to be a real test to see where policies are in the city now and whether the change that we feel occurred has occurred," Sharpton said at the Saturday rally that drew hundreds of people.

Garner's death on Friday has prompted an investigation by the Staten Island District Attorney's office and caused Mayor Bill de Blasio to postpone a vacation while he talks with community leaders.

A passer-by captured the interaction between Eric Garner and police on video, and the tape shows Garner saying at least eight times "I can't breathe," as police appear to push his head into the ground. The 6-foot-3, 350-pound Garner, an asthmatic, later died.

Garner, who was black, was confronted by police trying to arrest him on suspicion of selling untaxed, loose cigarettes on a Staten Island sidewalk, authorities said. Garner denied the charges and refused to be handcuffed before one of the officers placed him in what Police Commissioner William Bratton said appeared to be a chokehold,

[kustom80]

It's at the very least manslaughter. No doubt these pigs will get away scot free.

[Sadisticfucker]

Originally Posted by Lee ↗

Being overweight has nothing to do with automatically being asthmatic.

If you have someone in a choke hold with others helping you and the guy says he can't breath you loosen up. This was over the top.

Wrong..If you are talking..you are breathing !

[gunrun911]

It was a choke hold. He just took him to the ground. No way was he choked out and the coroner said it was a heart attack. Keep defending criminals.

[petedeamon]

Very sad when the people we hire to protect us use their authority to abuse and kill us.

[Zambini]

Best to cooperate so these things don't happen, accidental or intentional