[icheerthebull]

Plenty thanks Dana

[icheerthebull]

Fair play to him and let's be honest aldo will get his biggest payday thanks to conor. His antics have promoted the hell out of this fight and it's still 3 months away!

[rapeWhistle]

I've said it before, and i'll say it again: I think that fighters should be stood-up after being on the ground for more than 60 seconds.

Yeah, yeah...ground game, jiu jitsu, and wrestling are all crucial and an important part of fighting - but nobody paid to see a fucking grappling clinic. Most of the time it's just a stalling tactic perpetrated by the fighter that has the weaker striking game.

If you can't work your submission fast enough...too bad.

[icheerthebull]

Good point and I'm open to the idea but it should be longer then 60seconds. I know you may disagree but (it will never happen) I'd like to see longer rounds. It is what it is. The problem with a 60 second stand up is we would miss out on some great ground game. (Illusion I'm not slagging the UFC when I say this) I think a 60 second stand up would further perpetuate what I see is a 'jack of all trades master of none' kind of thing that is common. The striking skills would go up but I think 60 seconds would be to harsh on the ground game, would be god damn interesting though. One of the best mma fights ever IMO was Saku/Newton and that was pure ground work. Maybe a ground limit would increase the grownd game who knows.

Id rather see soccer kick allowed and a ten min opening round to be honest but then again I go elsewhere for a striking fix

There does need to be more consistency when it comes to standing fighters up though. Also stalling against the fence but what do I know!

[Illusion]

Originally Posted by rapeWhistle ↗

I've said it before, and i'll say it again: I think that fighters should be stood-up after being on the ground for more than 60 seconds.

Yeah, yeah...ground game, jiu jitsu, and wrestling are all crucial and an important part of fighting - but nobody paid to see a fucking grappling clinic. Most of the time it's just a stalling tactic perpetrated by the fighter that has the weaker striking game.

If you can't work your submission fast enough...too bad.

Originally Posted by rapeWhistle ↗

I've said it before, and i'll say it again: I think that fighters should be stood-up after being on the ground for more than 60 seconds.

Yeah, yeah...ground game, jiu jitsu, and wrestling are all crucial and an important part of fighting - but nobody paid to see a fucking grappling clinic. Most of the time it's just a stalling tactic perpetrated by the fighter that has the weaker striking game.

If you can't work your submission fast enough...too bad.

This comment is ignorant on so many levels, however it's probably the most common argument regarding casual mma fans.

First and foremost, let me answer your statement by recommending other great competitive contact sport alternatives where fights never take place on the ground like Kickboxing, Muay Thai or Boxing. Switching over to these sports would solve most of your predicament.

Secondly, stalling has nothing to do with the ground game. Have you ever watched a Mayweather boxing match? The self proclaimed "greatest of all-time," "pound-for-pound king," and "ultimate entertainer", is also the most fucking boring of all time. Talk about stalling. Toward the end of his fights boos could be heard from the crowd and yells of "boring" from different sections of the arena. By the midway point of the final round, many have already left their seats, making their way up to the exits with their backs turned to the ring. Mayweather is no Ali.

Bottom line is that I rather watch a fight where two competitors go at it with the least amount of rules as possible. That's the beauty of mma. It’s both the oldest and most honest category of sport. Back when we were still living in caves, there was only one way to find out one person’s athletic dominance over another, and it wasn't by shooting a ball into a net. Implicating more rules to this sport will only make it less desirable.

[guims79]

Originally Posted by Illusion ↗

Seeing that you are anti-ufc this statement does not surprise me. Is there any current ufc superstars that you do like?

The fact is Dana White is an asshole. I can say I really love MMA but feel sorry to Watch it on a trash show like UFC, no choice.

But the way McGregor steals the belt at Dublin is unacceptable.

Ok to deal with so much trash talk, traveling all over the world too but let a guy who has no rights on the belt touching it, and be so disrespectful with another fighter (champ or not) is a shame.

That promotion thing is not between martial arts limits.

Maybe it's because I come from judo (as a kid you learn first how to respect your opponent before how to throw him high) , does not mater, Rugby is a good example.

I don't blame Connor, like Nick Diaz, he motivates himself in that way.

But White doesn't doing his job well here.

Sorry for my bad English

[rapeWhistle]

Originally Posted by Illusion ↗

This comment is ignorant on so many levels, however it's probably the most common argument regarding casual mma fans.

First and foremost, let me answer your statement by recommending other great competitive contact sport alternatives where fights never take place on the ground like Kickboxing, Muay Thai or Boxing. Switching over to these sports would solve most of your predicament.

Secondly, stalling has nothing to do with the ground game. Have you ever watched a Mayweather boxing match? The self proclaimed "greatest of all-time," "pound-for-pound king," and "ultimate entertainer", is also the most fucking boring of all time. Talk about stalling. Toward the end of his fights boos could be heard from the crowd and yells of "boring" from different sections of the arena. By the midway point of the final round, many have already left their seats, making their way up to the exits with their backs turned to the ring. Mayweather is no Ali.

Bottom line is that I rather watch a fight where two competitors go at it with the least amount of rules as possible. That's the beauty of mma. It’s both the oldest and most honest category of sport. Back when we were still living in caves, there was only one way to find out one person’s athletic dominance over another, and it wasn't by shooting a ball into a net. Implicating more rules to this sport will only make it less desirable.

Yeah yeah...and that's the most common retort when anyone criticizes less-than-exciting/grappling-centric fights: calling someone a 'casual' for not wanting to see cage humping.
I never said you can't stall in a pure striking match; they can be just as boring, HELL, even more so. 'Smart' fighters can spend the entire round circling backwards around the cage avoiding their opponent waiting for them to make a mistake for them to capitalize on - just look at some of your GOATS.
I'm simply saying, as a fan, i'd like to see the refs a little quicker to stand up fighters that are CLEARLY just 'holding on' after getting rocked by going to the ground and waiting for the buzzer.

I'd like to see the old PRIDE Rules(and GLOVES) in every MMA promotion as well as modify the rules to prevent any sort of stalling or extended periods of inaction.
The 10min opening round would be awesome too - make a championship fight (1) 10min round and (3) 5min rounds perhaps...

I agree with your final point, that's why I could care less about things like Football, Fútbol, baseball, rugby, your beloved hockey, and to a lesser extent - boxing.
I can go play a sport myself, I want to watch people fight!

[Illusion]

UFC Fight Night 63: Chad Mendes v Ricardo Lamas.

[Illusion]

As you can see from tonight's ufc main event there is nothing wrong with the unified mma rules. A fighters style is usually what makes for entertaining fights. MMA Unified Rules of Conduct allows the strikers as well as the grapplers equal opportunity to win a fight.

Could there be small changes to the rules to better the game? Judging imo is the biggest problem in mma right now. First thing I would do is eliminate the 10 point must scoring system. All rounds are not created equal. One could do everything short of maim a guy for two rounds, fight even for the other three, have clearly won a fight, and very justifiably under the scoring system have lost the decision. IMO we would be better off eliminating the 10 point must system and adding something that scores a fight as a whole as opposed to individual rounds.

As for adding 60 second standups, I think that's a ridiculous idea. The reality is a round is only five minutes and if a fighter with a good wrestling pedigree can get on top of you and rape you for 5 minutes - tough fucking shit!! You need to learn how to get off your back, you need to learn how to sweep, you need to learn how to counter, and you need to learn how to attack off your back.

As a fan of mma, I understand that not everyone is educated in the ground game. Rules shouldn't be changed because of ignorance. Fuck those people. Let them watch something else.

[Illusion]

UFC just hired Jeff Novitzky as VP of athlete health & performance. You may know him as the guy who investigated the Barry Bonds/BALCO case and the guy that went after Armstrong for all those years.