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Obama Releases 'long Form' Birth Certificate (27 April 2011)

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The White House has released President Barack Obama's birth certificate, in response to persistent rumours he was not born in the US.

Mr Obama had previously released an official "certification of live birth" showing he was born in Hawaii.

But fringe "birther" theorists have insisted Mr Obama was actually born in his father's native Kenya, making him ineligible to be president.

Recently potential Republican candidate Donald Trump has revived the rumour.

'Silliness'
On Wednesday, Mr Obama described the unprecedented move as an effort to rid the US political debate of a distraction, saying he had watched, puzzled and bemused, as the birther conspiracy had built and developed over the past years.

He described the matter as a "sideshow" and its proponents as "carnival barkers".

"We do not have time for this kind of silliness," Mr Obama said. "We've got better stuff to do. I have better stuff to do. We've got big problems to solve, and I'm confident we can solve them, but we're going to have to focus on them - not on this."

The release of Mr Obama's long form birth certificate, which had been stored in a bound volume among the records of the Hawaii Department of Health since his birth in August 1961, comes after years of speculation among conspiracy-minded conservatives.

Under the US constitution, only a "natural born citizen" - a clause widely interpreted to mean born in the US or in some cases to US citizens abroad - is eligible to be president.

Trump's birther hype

The birther conspiracy held that Mr Obama was born in Kenya or in Indonesia, where he lived as a child, or that the birth certificate revealed other unwholesome information about the president.

During the 2008 presidential campaign Mr Obama released a computer print-out of the birth certificate information that is recognised as an official record of his birth - on passport applications, for instance - and Hawaiian public health officials vouched for its authenticity.

But the move did little to quell the birthers, even as most mainstream Republicans have sought to quash the movement, calling it a distraction from substantive policy disagreements.

New York real estate entrepreneur and reality television star, meanwhile, has publicly flirted with a Republican presidential bid in recent weeks, founded in large part by stoking questions about Mr Obama's origins.

And on Wednesday, Mr Trump took credit for forcing Mr Obama's hand.

"I've accomplished something that nobody else has been able to accomplish," Mr Trump told reporters. "He should have done it a long time ago."

The White House released copies of the original birth certificate, with a stamp verifying its authenticity. White House officials said they had been given a waiver by Hawaii public health officials, as the state's policy in general bars release of long-form birth certificates.

Birthers unsatisfied
The document shows Barack Hussein Obama II was born 4 August 1961 at Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu, to Barack Hussein Obama, a 25-year-old student, and Stanley Ann Dunham, 18, and includes the signature of the attending physician.

It remains unclear whether the release of the birth certificate will satisfy the most hard-core birthers.

Joseph Farah, chief executive of birther-orientated website WorldNetDaily.com, said on the site the document "raises as many questions as it answers".

"It is important to remember there are still dozens of other questions concerning this question of eligibility... concerning Barack Obama's parentage, his adoption, his citizenship status throughout his life and why he continues to cultivate a culture of secrecy around his life," he said.
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Re: Obama Releases 'long Form' Birth Certificate (27 April 2011)

Those "birthers" should just admit that they can't stand the idea that a black man is the president now. They should just come out and say that they are racist and be done with it, because that's all this "making sure he's a citizen" crap is about.
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Re: Obama Releases 'long Form' Birth Certificate (27 April 2011)

He's not all black, he's half white too. So given he's both, if he was born in Kenya then the law is the law white, black or silver.
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Re: Obama Releases 'long Form' Birth Certificate (27 April 2011)

he still is not qualified as far as a mans integrity or intellectual prowess, writing three books about yourself is not an admirable feet, especially when you have done nothing.
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Re: Obama Releases 'long Form' Birth Certificate (27 April 2011)

In response to thissiteisfuckedup:

The First Lady was obviously referring to the country of origin of his ancestors and his father. You can quibble about varying dictionary definitions of the term, but if every public speaker was required to know the precise currently popular top dictionary definition of a term they chose to use in extempraneous comments or speeches, George W. Bush, Sarah Palin and Michele Bachman would be legally required to wear gags 16 hours a day. (They would be allowed to remove them to sleep.)

It's just baffling how someone can think that a person casually using a term of obvous honor and respect like "home country" by God PROVES that someone wan't born in America. Yet physical in-hand examination of an authentic birth certificate by government agencies (with actual Republicans in them - gasp) and hundreds of reputable news agencies, as well as complete transparency in publishing photos to the world, is not *enough* proof that they were.

Some people pay so little attention to independent, non-partisan news and current events that they can't hold an intelligent conversation about *real* scandals, real issues and proposals for real solutions that we should all be debating and fine-tuning, in order to solve our country's problems. Instead they waste everybody's time with the purile, ludicrous, bitter wishful thinking. Their idea of debate is like that of a 5-year old; Just screw your eyes shut, jam your fingers in your ears and scream insults and false accusations at the top of your lungs. Because it takes intelligence, a decent education and actual knowledge of current events to have reasonable, productive debates.
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Re: Obama Releases 'long Form' Birth Certificate (27 April 2011)

he still is not qualified as far as a mans integrity or intellectual prowess, writing three books about yourself is not an admirable feet, especially when you have done nothing.
Re: intellectual prowess: "Since MENSA accepts various IQ Tests as well as other cognitive tests to qualify for MENSA membership it is safe to estimate that Obama's IQ Score could range anywhere from a low IQ score of 130 based on the Stanford Binet IQ Test, Revision 5, to a high IQ score of 148 based on the Cattell IQ Test." That's moderately gifted to exceptionally gifted, a.k.a., genius.

Re: integrity and having "done nothing": I'm disappointed that he didn't fight harder for some of the things that the majority of Americans care about and voted him in for, e.g., single payer healthcare. He was trying too hard to compromise, in order to fulfill his campaign promise of ending the bitter divisiveness in Washington. Neverthelese, he has already done many of the things he promised, including ending the shameful Bush invasion and war in Iraq.

Recall John Boener's on-the-record comment that the NUMBER ONE PRIORITY on the Republican agenda was to make sure President Obama is a one-term President. Not jobs, not bringing Wall Street swindlers to justice, not preventing millions of American deaths by finally catching up to ALL other capitalist democracies in the world in ensuring universal healthcare, not education. No, PRIORITY ONE is to BLOCK every single good thing the President and his party try to do to ease the burden on Americans whose backs were broken by Bush era corporate orgies of excess and the Reagan wet dream of complete deregulation. So if the President's urgings have failed to convince a Republican Congress to act, there's your reason. The President himself does not have the power to pass the laws.

For hundreds of his other accomplishments so far, see, well, thousands of sites, but here's one: http://obamaachievements.org/list. Her's another: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Things...e/457458970505

For idiots who dislike research, but like to argue that he'd never done anything before being president, here's an easy, easy chunk of wikipedia for you: "Obama is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he was the president of the Harvard Law Review. He was a community organizer in Chicago before earning his law degree. He worked as a civil rights attorney in Chicago and taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. He served three terms representing the 13th District in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004." Since you obviously feel qualified to judge, feel free to list courses in Constitutional Law that you have taught, law degrees you have, ways in which you've actually organized and lead for the good of your community, and terms you've served in our highest branches of government.

Re: books about himself: Insofar as any book of philosophy and serious thought and insight is "a book about himself", then sure, he wrote books about himself. It would've been pretty stupid to write books on his beliefs and ideas that was based on his neighbor's life, and it would've been seriously lacking if he hadn't explained the background that lead to those insights. Use your common sense.

Then point me to your own published books on amazon.com, and name your own concrete accomplishments that endeavor to make millions of lives better.

...For the record, I know a lot of you will say, "It's pointless to argue with idiots on the Internet." I find that every time I do, though, I research dozens of things, cross-checking facts, spending hours of time reading reputable non-partisan sources from around the globe, and it only strengthens my own knowledge and ability to debate intelligently. As a politically and socially knowledgeable and active person, that can only help me and the people I try to help. :) It also helps me learn to take the edge off. I'm not perfect at it, but believe me, my unedited reply was a LOT more acerbic!
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Re: Obama Releases 'long Form' Birth Certificate (27 April 2011)

oh my god, shut the fuck up.

i seriously dont even care , and your going to hard lengths to prove the sun shines out of obama's ass, good for you, i dont give a fuck. fuck obama.
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Re: Obama Releases 'long Form' Birth Certificate (27 April 2011)

Doesn't matter, he's still foreign to this country and should never have been allowed to run for president.
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Re: Obama Releases 'long Form' Birth Certificate (27 April 2011)

oh my god, shut the fuck up.

i seriously dont even care , and your going to hard lengths to prove the sun shines out of obama's ass, good for you, i dont give a fuck. fuck obama.
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Re: Obama Releases 'long Form' Birth Certificate (27 April 2011)

oh my god, shut the fuck up.

i seriously dont even care , and your going to hard lengths to prove the sun shines out of obama's ass, good for you, i dont give a fuck. fuck obama.
Uh-huh. Isn't it interesting that you DO care deeply, as long as YOU are casting baseless aspersions, but when someone identifies the logical fallacies and lies in them, oh suddenly, you don't give a fuck. Seriously? I took the trouble to address each and every one of your fallacies with painstaking research and detail, not a single curse or name-calling, and the best you can do is "Duuuuuuh I don't give a fuck"? Also, exposing lies and distortions is hardly hero worship. I am a lover of truth. How very convenient that you don't recognize my statement that I'm disappointed in his record. All the rest are simple, unassailable facts. I expose lies where I see them, regardless of who they're about.
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