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Dutch: Hunger Winter of 1944-1945

Dutch: Hunger Winter of 1944-1945

this is what starvation is.....

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Re: Dutch: Hunger Winter of 1944-1945

starving must be such a horrible death

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Re: Dutch: Hunger Winter of 1944-1945

Very sad

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Re: Dutch: Hunger Winter of 1944-1945

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starving must be such a horrible death
i have a great uncle and great grandpa both american air force pows... both taken by germans n starved/tortured and both made it home... the one died drunk driving a few years state side.. the other lived a very long life.. however the dude hid food.. everywhere, (im told) his fear of starvation left him frantic in a everyday fear where food would spoil when he forgot it... and food would turn up in strange places, like in sofas, trees..lol.. etc... it was just a quirk of his.. other than that he was a very successful tool maker....

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Re: Dutch: Hunger Winter of 1944-1945

As many here know, I have two daughters that my wife and I adopted from Russia. One of the things we were told to expect them to hoard food. Our girls never did, but I know from other adoptive parents that this is quite a common thing among adopted children from other countries. Like you said, it's just a harmless quirk...until you understand why they hide food and the trauma that must've taken place to have that become a habit. Starvation sucks, but I have heard it's a fairly painless death.

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Re: Dutch: Hunger Winter of 1944-1945

thanks for sharing that...where abouts in russia and what type of conditions where they living in?

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I have two daughters that my wife and I adopted from Russia.
thank you very much for that tidbit... very interesting.... there lucky to have u....

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thanks for sharing that...where abouts in russia and what type of conditions where they living in?
They came from Veliky Novgorod which is about two hours south of St. Petersburg. It was a nice town with a very very old kremlin that actually was founded by Vikings...it's right on a pretty good sized river. The orphanage was actually really nice and they allowed us to roam freely throughout the building. The girls are actual siblings and they were in great shape...except for the monumental hair bows (very traditional Russian thing to do). The girls have adapted to life quite well with only very very minor attachment issues and some night terrors in the first few months. They learned English fairly fluently after about eight months. It was a weird transition, but they were great and pretty cute. We got them when they were 3 and 4 years old. They're now 11 and 12, straight A students, very funny, solid good citizens, they love sports, and are real characters (in a good way). It cost us about $100K after it was all said and done...but it was very worth it.

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They came from Veliky Novgorod which is about two hours south of St. Petersburg. It was a nice town with a very very old kremlin that actually was founded by Vikings...it's right on a pretty good sized river. The orphanage was actually really nice and they allowed us to roam freely throughout the building. The girls are actual siblings and they were in great shape...except for the monumental hair bows (very traditional Russian thing to do). The girls have adapted to life quite well with only very very minor attachment issues and some night terrors in the first few months. They learned English fairly fluently after about eight months. It was a weird transition, but they were great and pretty cute. We got them when they were 3 and 4 years old. They're now 11 and 12, straight A students, very funny, solid good citizens, they love sports, and are real characters (in a good way). It cost us about $100K after it was all said and done...but it was very worth it.
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You're very kind, but my wife and I are no heros. I'm afraid we adopted our girlies for the most selfish of all reasons...we just wanted to be parents and couldn't conceive on our own. We tried to adopt domestically, but due to my career, we were looked upon as pariah by the social workers and lost around $15K. We just got tired of the leftist, politically correct bullshit spewed out by the social workers, lawyers, and utterly retarded birth mothers...so we started looking around internationally. We tried Korea...we were too old at 43. We tried Japan...they don't adopt internationally. We tried Poland...their international adoption system was up and running at the time. We tried a few other countries without success. So finally, my work partner suggested Russia. Having been raised during the Cold War, I thought all Russian women were fat, ugly, and drunk...wow, was I wrong! My work partner showed me some of the Russian bride (ok...and porn) sites and I figured out fairly fast that Russian women are gorgeous and just the opposite of what I thought. So we went with Russia and we got two really great little humans. We were very very lucky...but we're nothing special. Those two little girls were a gift and I'm far more fortunate to have them, than they are to have me.

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