Auschwitz - January 27, 1945

[Greenfind235]

People aren't denying it happened, just the number.

And why is it pushed so much yet the communist USSR and China deaths aren't? Yet there were much much worse.

Think people are just sick of this being a scapegoat of "protected" persons when they are critisied for anything and this is randomly brought up.

[Ferocity]

Can't even fathom pain and suffering... and this is just one place

[ironmike]

I watched a documentary on the traveling "death squads" which claimed to kill as many or more people than the concentration camps.
They would go from village to village, herd people together and kill them. Absolutely horrible. How can people do this? If I was told our country went to war against a certain group and I had to join a death squad, I would rather be dead myself.

[mr_feelgood]

The results of allied bombing of rail lines and transport plus the bombing of hospitals I'm Germany and it's held territory leading in plague like level of disease and famine level food and supply shortages
It wasn't like you have been told by brainwashing media corporations owed by the the only victim of this tragedy who decided to profit on it and keep the shitty memories alive instead of moving on and growing as a society

I'm done now and would love anyone to try and contest anything I've said

[mr_feelgood]

Originally Posted by tdsantmyers

My origin is, German. Dad and mom side. We have family in Heidelberg and had a chance to visit years ago. We also traveled to Amsterdam and went through Anne Franks, secret annex. You move the bookcase and ascend the stairs that is like a ladder. You walk through and they have the movie star pictures she had on a wall. You get to look out of the window shown in the movie that looks over to the bridge that show the soldiers walking back and forth. I live in Washington DC and the museum dedicated to memorialize and to never forget the people who died. You are given a card with a real person who is documented as being there and find out in the end if your person lived or died. One room is nothing but shoes. The smell of earth, death, burnt hair, staleness air, is overwhelming. Its tangible. It changes you. You leave with a new respect.

They had to do something with all that shit considering they had no rail lines or safe ways to dispose of trash when there were more important things that needed transport besides fuckin shoes
Maybe if they could have gotten rid of the hair and diseased louse that come with it
Next you'll try to say the lice can't spread disease right?
Read a non bias source

[Caveman5150]

When Russians go someplace & are all "Wow -- this is fucked up"... then you know it has to be really fucked up.

[William May]

Watch the movie "Zone of Interest". It is about the life of the commander of Auschwitz, Rudolf Hoss. The camp is never shown, but the walls are seen in some of the background shots. It is quite chilling. He was the commander there from 1940 to 1943, was posted to another camp to clean it up and get it operating efficiently, and then was returned to Auschwitz as a commander in 1944, when they had decided to kill all the Hungarian Jews, and wanted their top man to make sure everything went well.

The only really gross scene is when Hoss and his children are swimming in a local river, and he discovers body parts in the river, and hustles his kids out of the water to go home and wash up. Even then you don't see much.

Not a spoiler, just a note: During the film, you will see a young girl distributing apples in areas that the prisoners have to work, as a means of getting them some food. The girl was a Catholic Polish girl, named Alexandra. The dress the actress wears, and the bicycle she rides in the film, are the actual items that Alexandra used on her apple distribution rides during the war. I think she died in 1996, but they thank her at the end of the movie.

The background noise from the camp was generated and broadcast during the filming, to reflect what went on in different areas of the camp. I think they ran the sound from over 100 different spots during filming, to catch what it was really like living next to a concentration camp.

The actual house he lived in is now privately owned. They picked a derelict house, also on the border of the Auschwitz site and near his actual home, and planted the gardens and decorated and repainted the house a full year BEFORE the filming started, as they wanted the gardens to be in full bloom, just as they were when Hoss lived there.

You wonder how people could do such things. It is a VERY GRIM movie, but not graphic in any sense. Except for the fact that you know what is going on, while these people are living their lives so casually.

[LadyCPlum]

Originally Posted by mr_feelgood

The results of allied bombing of rail lines and transport plus the bombing of hospitals I'm Germany and it's held territory leading in plague like level of disease and famine level food and supply shortages
It wasn't like you have been told by brainwashing media corporations owed by the the only victim of this tragedy who decided to profit on it and keep the shitty memories alive instead of moving on and growing as a society

I'm done now and would love anyone to try and contest anything I've said

Sorry, but in the words of Hans Frank, the Governor-General of Occupied Poland "A thousand years will pass, and still this guilt of Germany will not be washed away". What the Allies did is small beans compared to the machinery that assisted in the extermination of Jews, Poles, Slavs, Romany, priests, homosexuals, the mentally and physically handicapped, Russian POWs, and the obliteration of entire towns in the East. Sounds to me like you're sticking up for that machinery. Sounds to me like you wish you could have been a part of that machinery.

[tarvin890]

And now Isreal jews are shooting unarmed women in the street.
.how ironic

[LadyCPlum]

Originally Posted by tarvin890

And now Isreal jews are shooting unarmed women in the street.
.how ironic

HAMAS started the war, Israel will finish it.