[akham]

Originally Posted by Cassiopea ↗

Maduro got kidnapped, and like...how is this dumb shit even related?

Hush child. If you don't understand posts on the site, then go sit in the corner with the other idiots.

[akham]

Originally Posted by v1r ↗

stop yourself retard

A great way to show that you have no valid comment or argument.

[akham]

Originally Posted by Pyramid_Head ↗

Not a single person should be against removing literal fucking dictators. But libs gonna lib I guess.

Well, there's this concept called "law". Basically it means that, in theory at least, you can't just do whatever you want. It applies (or should apply) to everyone, it's not (or shouldn't be) a partisan issue.

If this is a concept that you do not understand, maybe you should learn about "law" and the importance of it?

People not following this thing called "law" might not matter to you when those people are doing things that you agree with. But its sure gonna matter to you once people are doing things, maybe things to you, that you don't agree with.

Because, maybe, in a few years time someone else might be running the United States. Maybe one of those "lib" people you don't like. And if they don't follow this thing called "law" they might start doing things you don't like. Maybe things that harm you, for example. And once you start getting squashed by somone with absolute power who has a different political view than you do, it may be the case that this thing called "law" starts becoming quite important to you.

[v1r]

Originally Posted by akham ↗

A great way to show that you have no valid comment or argument.

no matter the argument or comment vincent would twist it. i just like letting him know what he is when he yaps. there is history you dont know brother bill.

[kellyhound]

Originally Posted by akham ↗

Jim Beam deciding to close their largest distillery because, at least in part, the Canadians told them to fuck off.

the Canada related issue represent approx. 10% of the overall reasons for the production pause for a year as slumping demand for bourbon and American whiskey, with U.S. sales dropping approx. 5% in recent years and overall alcohol consumption declining world-wide plus oversupply as Kentucky has a record 16 million barrels aging, triple the amount from 15 years ago, leading to high taxes on aging inventory like $75 million statewide in 2025.

they had a boost during Covid so they produced more but after Covid the demand declined.

Using the downtime they gonna invest in site enhancements and upgrades.


Yes it's all about Venezuela having one of the world's largest oil reserves and Chevron (U.S) doing the main business and investments there and with Maduro siding with China, russia, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Nicaragua, Syria, Turkey and Belarus evading sanctions and sell discounted oil in exchange for medical and security assistance etc. and that's not good for the major U.S. oil producing industry, thanks to the shale boom, as that comes with higher costs to become more profitable.

Also low prices reduce drilling, investment and output in U.S. shale regions leading to job losses, bankruptcies and slowed growth in energy-dependent states like Texas~R and North Dakota~R.


He wants Greenland because of the shippings routes that are increasing due to reducing ice and being a vital sea corridor for submarines and naval operations plus Greenland is rich in critical and rare earth minerals.

China's growing arctic presence is also a threat and that's why Trump is more or less siding with russia during the peace talks as they had the Arctic deal proposal talks in 2025 and the Anchorage, Alaska summit to gain access to russian arctic minerals and energy reserves with the help of U.S. businesses (also before China runs a deal with Putin over this) and to be less dependable on minerals from China.

This all comes with a double moral. $/world control over civilian deaths/democracy, state sovereignty and free speech. A bit like russia and china doing for ages.

They all come up with the wildest excuses/framings to reach that goal.


Also the U.S. wasn't that hasty to get involved into WW1 untill economics played a role. The sinking of the RMS Lusitania by a German U-boat, which killed 128 Americans out of nearly 1200 people on board in May 1915, wasn't a trigger but in february 1917 and the revelation of the intercepted Zimmermann Telegram (German foreign Secretary Arthur Zimmermann proposed an alliance with Mexico, promising to help recover lost territories like Texas, New Mexico and Arizona if the U.S. entered the war.

Its publication in March outraged Americans, portraying Germany as a direct threat to U.S. security plus U.S. trade with Britain and France boomed, tripling from 1914–1916, while loans from banks like J.P. Morgan financed allied purchases of American goods.

An Allied defeat risked massive financial losses plus many Americans sympathized with the Allies due to shared language, heritage and reports of German atrocities. Also british propaganda amplified anti-German sentiment.

Actually 64% of Americans sympathize more with Ukraine (up from 59% in March 2025), with only 2% sympathizing more with russia.

Republican sympathy rose to 55% (from 45%), while Democratic sympathy held steady at ~83%.

It all depends on news and social media and getting the facts instead of desinformation and twisted truths

Most Americans opposed direct involvement in world war 2, with polls showing up to 94% against intervention unless the US was attacked.

President Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR) sympathized with the Allies and viewed Nazi Germany as a threat to democracy and US security.

He gradually shifted policy toward support through measures like:The "cash-and-carry" policy (1939)
The Destroyers-for-Bases deal (1940)
The Lend-Lease Act (1941), which provided massive aid to Britain, China, and later the Soviet Union

These steps positioned the US as the "arsenal of democracy" without formal belligerency.

Tensions with Japan escalated due to US economic sanctions, including oil embargoes, in response to Japanese aggression in China and Indochina.

Japan viewed these as existential threats and launched the Pearl Harbor attack to neutralize the US Pacific Fleet.

so it depends on which President and Party is in power and how they view the world when it comes to democracy, peace, dominance and free speech.

[TheFairOne]

Originally Posted by scorpion9 ↗

Its surprising how many maga cult'ists dont understand the implications of this attack.
I agree, that getting rid of Maduro is a good thing in general, but the way he was removed only pushed the US closer to full blown dictatorship. It was already crawling towards an authoritarian regime. Now, that Trump violated the constitution by ignoring other branches of government, he basically set a precedent that he is "all powerful".
He literally killed 40 people, 5 of whom were civilians. If someone goes shoots 5 americans on the street, they are considered a murderer( perhaps even a serial killer ). If Trump does that, its ... just an operation. There is a reason why use of military requires congressional approval and should follow the international law.
And, lets fucking not pretend that this had anything to do with drugs. Its all, 100% about oil. Nothing else. If it were about drugs, then the US would attack other countries, where the drugs are actually produced...but of course they have no interest in that.

This! If another country has attacked us the same way, and civilians were killed on top of that, we'd absolutely label them terrorists and want their heads.

I hate Maduro... And King Abdullah, Kim Jong Il, Isaias Afwerki, etc. it would make me incredibly happen to see them dead. But I know perfectly well going in and just taking them is a war crime and is a horrible idea. If we think it's okay to do that, what countries are immune from it? Can anyone bomb and invade the US, take our president, and kidnap them out of their sovereign nation? It looks that way.

[AnonX93]

Originally Posted by TheFairOne ↗

This! If another country has attacked us the same way, and civilians were killed on top of that, we'd absolutely label them terrorists and want their heads.

I hate Maduro... And King Abdullah, Kim Jong Il, Isaias Afwerki, etc. it would make me incredibly happen to see them dead. But I know perfectly well going in and just taking them is a war crime and is a horrible idea. If we think it's okay to do that, what countries are immune from it? Can anyone bomb and invade the US, take our president, and kidnap them out of their sovereign nation? It looks that way.

It’s a crime but not a war crime. It’s a crime because any war is a crime. War crimes though are specific killing of civilians, burning of civilian infrastructure as punishment, and murder of surrendered soldiers.

It’s an international crime but find me a war/conflict where international laws weren’t broken to carry out said war. The only wars that haven’t violated laws were the ones that happened before the laws were written. Let’s not act like the US is the only country that does or has done this…just the most recent.

The reality of the situation is this was about two things 1) Oil. 2) Americas rivals setting up shop on Americas back door. Personally I could care less that they took this guy down…even if it was illegal. Let’s not forget he was not recognized as the legitimate leader of Venezuela by over half the world. Sometimes it’s okay to morally break laws. In this case, they took out a dictator who lost an election and refused to transfer power.

I’d say a vast majority are happy he’s gone. However 50% of those may be celebrating the other 50% are apprehensive because of the impending power vacuum about to take place which unfortunately will leads to more US intervention most likely.

[AnonX93]

And no…nobody can bomb and kidnap our president. Nobody has the military that can handle such an outrageous task.

[kellyhound]

Next.

[Vincentsdream]

The precedent set is horrendousanf should scare you. America has said, with this action, we can do whatever the fuck we want. He's even threatened to kill the vice president because she said she won't let them run Venezuela like a puppet state.