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US Aid to Kurdistan

Matthew Toller, the US ambassador to Iraq, attended a ceremony to hand over $250 million-worth military aid to Peshmerga forces in Erbil, the capital of the Iraqi Kurdistan region.

According to Iraqi Kurdistan sources, the aid delivered includes armored vehicles and a large quantity of weapons and other military equipment valued at $250 million.
US military assistance will also continue in the future, and a number of US troops will assist the Peshmerga in training and using some weapons.

Toller, the US Ambassador to Iraq, met separately with Massoud, Masroor and Nechirvan Barzani during his visit to the Iraqi Kurdistan region.

US military aid was delivered directly to the Iraqi Kurdistan region, this is while under Iraqi law any military assistance to Kurdistan Region must be approved by the central government first.

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What a waste of money

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They need anti-tank missiles, and anti-aircraft missiles more.

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We should be helping the Kurt's as much as possible. The one thing Trump has done that almost makes me want to turn my back on him is him turning his on the Kurt's.

They are a good people, who love America. You know not a single American soldier was killed in the Kurdish region of Iraq during the war. Because they looked out for us, they protected us.

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We should be helping the Kurt's as much as possible. The one thing Trump has done that almost makes me want to turn my back on him is him turning his on the Kurt's.

They are a good people, who love America. You know not a single American soldier was killed in the Kurdish region of Iraq during the war. Because they looked out for us, they protected us.
They are severely communist. I suppose there are more important things than that when you're fighting though.

I have real trouble believing that Kurdish even exist as a real people any longer. It's true they do appear to love America--no matter how many times it uses the Kurds as some kind of militarized probing stick to steal swaths of other country's land, and then have their asses forcefully knocked back off of it after the US withdraws, no longer needing whatever bases or weapons caches were on it. They just leave the Kurds there high and dry.

Shit keeps happening too, and the Kurds keep taking it. What kind of legitimate people respect themselves, or their families so little. I think they are a proxy force at this point, and not too much more. Fringe fighters--even their girls are mad tough, and fight along side the males, or sometimes they splinter off into their own groups to set mines, etc.
I'd like to know more about the modern Kurd.

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They are severely communist. I suppose there are more important things than that when you're fighting though.

I have real trouble believing that Kurdish even exist as a real people any longer. It's true they do appear to love America--no matter how many times it uses the Kurds as some kind of militarized probing stick to steal swaths of other country's land, and then have their asses forcefully knocked back off of it after the US withdraws, no longer needing whatever bases or weapons caches were on it, they leave the Kurds their high and dry.

Shit keeps happening too, and the Kurds keep taking it. What kind of legitimate people respect themselves, or their families so little. I think they are a proxy force at this point, and not too much more. Fringe fighters--even their girls are mad tough, and fight along side the males, or sometimes they splinter off into their own groups and set mines etc.
I'd like to know more about the modern Kurd.
Well you should learn more. Because your description of them is inaccurate.

There story is pretty sad, and crazy. But they're basically a people with no nation, and have been attacked and backstabbed and left high and dry many times. By America, by Europe, by Russia, Iraq, Turkey and Syria.

America has screwed them, but at the same time no country has done more for them either. Which is why they like America.

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Well you should learn more. Because your description of them is inaccurate.

There story is pretty sad, and crazy. But they're basically a people with no nation, and have been attacked and backstabbed and left high and dry many times. By America, by Europe, by Russia, Iraq, Turkey and Syria.

America has screwed them, but at the same time no country has done more for them either. Which is why they like America.
Well, we are in agreement that they a get screwed by anyone they let do so, which has been many different countries. I only wonder why any group would continue to do so, if they weren't just some desert fighting force/cannon fodder that more or less expects it.

"PKK" stands for Kurdistan Workers Party, and this is their flag. So I doubt that you disagree that they are commies.

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Now if all those aren't all the exact things that communists would call themselves, while waving flags that look precisely like that, well then I'll just have to eat a Cobra.

Which leaves only one thing that you could disagree with me about...It's their females.

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You just must not think their females are tough?
Or good lord! Tough enough?
And this despite my literally having seen photos of ones with bullet holes in them, wearing fatigues, and with thicker moustaches than I could even dream of growing.
I'm left to conclude only that you must be some kind of moustache reappropriating sexist!

So quit that! You'll get us spanked.

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We should be helping the Kurt's as much as possible. The one thing Trump has done that almost makes me want to turn my back on him is him turning his on the Kurt's.

They are a good people, who love America. You know not a single American soldier was killed in the Kurdish region of Iraq during the war. Because they looked out for us, they protected us.
They recovered several U.S. pilots also, keeping them from the Iraqis. We should have recognized their country. Then we'd have a base in the region, surrounded by a friendly nation.

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Well, we are in agreement that they a get screwed by anyone they let do so, which has been many different countries. I only wonder why any group would continue to do so, if they weren't just some desert fighting force/cannon fodder that more or less expects it.

"PKK" stands for Kurdistan Workers Party, and this is their flag. So I doubt that you disagree that they are commies.

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Here is the KCK (Kurdistan Communities Union) flag.

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Here is the HPG (People's Defense Force) Flag.

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Here is the YPG (People's Protection Units) Flag.

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And here is the PYD (Democratic Union Party) Flag.

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Now if all those aren't all the exact things that communists would call themselves, while waving flags that look precisely like that, well then I'll just have to eat a Cobra.

Which leaves only one thing that you could disagree with me about...It's their females.

Their flag, by the way. The YJA (Free Women's Units)
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You just must not think their females are tough?
Or good lord! Tough enough?
And this despite my literally having seen photos of ones with bullet holes in them, wearing fatigues, and with thicker moustaches than I could even dream of growing.
I'm left to conclude only that you must be some kind of moustache reappropriating sexist!

So quit that! You'll get us spanked.
No doubt their women forces are brave. But from my understanding the women are their stragglers units. And their public relations units.

After the main fighting forces move through a village or territory. The women's units that also have foriegn fighters, American soldiers and volunteers from many countries. move in to keep the enemy from moving back in, to go house to house to search for weapons, intelligence, and ied's. And to build a relationship with the locals.

Their women are brave, but they don't put them up front. The last thing they want is ISIS or Daesh to get ahold of their women.

Ya i think but I'm not positive. The Kurds got their communism from the Soviet Union when Russia was helping them and Russia was spreading communism.

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No doubt their women forces are brave. But from my understanding the women are their stragglers units. And their public relations units.

After the main fighting forces move through a village or territory. The women's units that also have foriegn fighters, American soldiers and volunteers from many countries. move in to keep the enemy from moving back in, to go house to house to search for weapons, intelligence, and ied's. And to build a relationship with the locals.

Their women are brave, but they don't put them up front. The last thing they want is ISIS or Daesh to get ahold of their women.

Ya i think but I'm not positive. The Kurds got their communism from the Soviet Union when Russia was helping them and Russia was spreading communism.
There are a few photos of their dead female fighters. A video, where I guess some enemy fighters did find one. I think her pants were pulled down and she was all smashed up.

I watched a shorter documentary a while ago about their Woman's force. It was maybe Journeyman, or maybe even Vice or somewhere like that.

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