[IC10021]

Police Say Shoplifters Had Fetus in Bag

By THE NEW YORK TIMES
Published: October 17, 2013

When a guard at a Victoria’s Secret in Herald Square stopped two teenage girls on Thursday afternoon, he discovered some stolen items in their possession, but — tipped off by a strong odor — also something far more heinous, the police said.

One of their bags contained a dead fetus, the New York Police Department said.

The discovery prompted a torrent of questions, few of which had been answered by the evening. The department said it was not yet known when the fetus was born or whether it was alive or dead around 1 p.m., when the two girls entered the store, at 1328 Broadway. The period of gestation was also not known.

The medical examiner has scheduled an autopsy of the fetus for Friday, a spokeswoman said, and officials said more information about the case could be available afterward.

The police identified the two young women as Tiana Rodriguez, of Brooklyn, and Francis Estevez, of Queens, both 17. The two were charged with petty larceny and possession of stolen property, the police said.

The authorities were questioning one of the teenagers, the police said. The other was taken to Bellevue Hospital, but the Police Department did not say why.

A manager at the Victoria’s Secret store did not respond to a message left with a sales associate.

(A version of this article appears in print on October 18, 2013, on page A24 of the New York edition with the headline: Police Say Shoplifters Had Fetus in Bag.)

[IC10021]

[Darkest Angel]

[rapeWhistle]

Eww...

Tiana Rodriguez, of Brooklyn, and Francis Estevez

They're both 17, so it probably isn't their first kid.

[subhuman]

True Story (semi-related) : I used to work at Victoria's Secret - seasonal. Store policy says you're not supposed to try on the underwear in the dressing rooms, but women do it anyways. These soiled items are eventually put back on the rack by shoppers or careless employees.

Once my store had to shut down due to a scabies outbreak coming from the clothes.

[subhuman]

Originally Posted by simkin ↗

True Story (semi-related) : I used to work at Victoria's Secret - seasonal. Store policy says you're not supposed to try on the underwear in the dressing rooms, but women do it anyways. These soiled items are eventually put back on the rack by shoppers or careless employees.

Once my store had to shut down due to a scabies outbreak coming from the clothes.

Shut down temporarily*

[JohnFrash]

Originally Posted by simkin ↗

True Story (semi-related) : I used to work at Victoria's Secret - seasonal. Store policy says you're not supposed to try on the underwear in the dressing rooms, but women do it anyways. These soiled items are eventually put back on the rack by shoppers or careless employees.

Once my store had to shut down due to a scabies outbreak coming from the clothes.

And that is why I wash everything before I wear it. That's one of the nastiest things I have ever thought about. "soiled items"

[IC10021]

She has a two-year old at home.
Miscarried the previous day.
How depressing, huh?
Who knows what her mental state was; could have been in post-partum psychosis.
Can't come much closer to being in-between life and death than that.

[JohnFrash]

Originally Posted by IC10021 ↗

She has a two-year old at home.
Miscarried the previous day.
How depressing, huh?
Who knows what her mental state was; could have been in post-partum psychosis.
Can't come much closer to being in-between life and death than that.

That's so bizarre. I get that it can make a person snap, but to carry the fetus around while you underwear shop? Super strange. I wish I knew the security guard. He probably needs a beer.

[Sharon]

Here is the girl. Sad case