[Pyramid_Head]

This is child you fucking morons.

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Originally Posted by Pigeon ↗

"I didn't keep the receipt; can I do an exchange?"

Yes. You may choose another piece of merchandise at the sale price

Sad, isn't it?

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Originally Posted by dcaccount22 ↗

If thats true, its not normal for a 9 year old to threaten people with a knife. I would be terrified to have him in my home.

True, but, wouldn't you seek help for him

I wonder what he learned in that house

[daughterofthenight]

Does anyone here have a sociopathic or psychopathic child? I'm going to suggest that only parents who do will understand what these parents are going through. It is possible to love your child and be frightened of him and what he might do to you and your family. If these parents had had no luck getting counselors and doctors to take them seriously and their son was threatening their lives, their other children's lives...

...well, just what would you do?

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Originally Posted by adhOLapbNwaST! ↗

Does anyone here have a sociopathic or psychopathic child? I'm going to suggest that only parents who do will understand what these parents are going through. It is possible to love your child and be frightened of him and what he might do to you and your family. If these parents had had no luck getting counselors and doctors to take them seriously and their son was threatening their lives, their other children's lives...

...well, just what would you do?

I do not, but, I'd seek help for him.

I'd put locks and dead bolts on all the bedroom doors at night to protect myself and the other children.

I wouldn't drop him off somewhere with a note.

Do you have such a child, adhOLapbNwaST!, or know someone who does?

[Azimuth]

Originally Posted by adhOLapbNwaST! ↗

For a few years I had a child who hated me. Hit me, pushed me, threatened my life repeatedly, pulled a knife on me once, and scissors on me another time. Very angry, but only at me. I got as much help as I could without insurance. So basically school counseling was all I had. Child, well adult, seems fine now about 99% of the time, but never has told me why. Because he only saw a school counselor there was no diagnosis.

If this child had threatened my other children, I would have had the child committed.

Unless you have had a child make you believe that he could kill you, you really have no idea at all what you would do. Don't judge what you don't really understand.

That would be terrifying. . And heartbreaking I can't imagine it.

[daughterofthenight]

Originally Posted by azimuth ↗

That would be terrifying. . And heartbreaking I can't imagine it.

To love your child so much it hurts and be frightened and have __ hate you that deeply is, god, it still chokes me up. Even though this child is doing so incredibly well now, I still feel as if I am waiting for the other shoe to drop. I hug __ and hold __ tight to me whenever we are together and pray that it really truly is over.

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Originally Posted by Megamel29 ↗

I think they're hiding so they can't be served by the police. The police want to charge them with abandonment. If nothing else, they should be barred from any adoptions in the future.

I smell a rat.
this is not a foster child, which by law, can be returned to child services, but an adopted child. This is a permanent situation in the eyes of the law. these people are definitely hiding something.

all of the children should be evaluated for both physical and emotional/mental abuse.

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By Lisa Cornwell of Associated Press

November 26, 2013

A court-appointed attorney says the troubled child is now receiving the professional help that the parents neglected to provide for him

CINCINNATI — When an Ohio couple recently gave child welfare officials a 9 year old boy they raised from infancy, prosecutors said they committed a crime. People within the adoption community say giving up a child after so much time is rare and undermines the lifelong commitment that adopted children require.

"Parenthood is supposed to be forever — not until there are issues," said Sixto Cancel, a 21 year old Virginia Commonwealth University junior who is also an advocate for adopted and fostered children.

The suburban Cincinnati parents indicted on misdemeanor counts of nonsupport allegedly left the boy with children's services after saying he was displaying aggressive behavior and earlier threatened the family with a knife. Cleveland Cox, 49, and his 52 year old wife, Lisa, are due in court Wednesday. Neither they nor their attorney, Anthony Vannoy, immediately returned calls for comment.

Adolfo Olivas, an attorney appointed by the court to protect the boy's interests, has said the emotionally hurt and confused child is now receiving help that the parents should have gotten for him.

Cancel believes it was up to the parents to get help for their son, even if he didn't want it.

Cancel, of Richmond, VA, said he experienced abuse and never found a good fit, moving from a troubled adoptive home to foster care homes.

As an adoptee, "you need reassurance that you are not alone," he said.

Christopher Hehn, of Greenwood, Indiana, said adoptees crave stability. Hehn, 27, was shuffled from foster home to foster home before a social worker adopted him at age 12.

"When the going got tough, it was out the door for me," Hehn said. "But, when I was adopted, my mother said it was forever, no matter what. She stuck it out, and I was finally able to trust again."

Greg and Robin Smith, of New Richmond in Clermont County, became adoptive parents in a ceremony last week, adopting four siblings — ages 5 to 12 — who they cared for as foster children for over three years.

Robin Smith acknowledged some anger and other issues among the children, stemming from their experiences before coming to the Smiths.

"But you just can't give up on children, not matter how hard the situation is," she said.

Two biological brothers adopted this month by the Rev. Edward Byers and wife Darnette, of Cincinnati, say they know the 9 year old must feel depressed and lonely.

"I know what it's like to move from house to house," said the youngest brother, 14 year old Tyshawn. "But ,I would tell him to stay in there and not give up"

Butler County Prosecutor Michael Gmoser has declined to provide more details on the charges against the Coxes, but he said there are legal consequences to what he called, "reckless," abandonment.

National adoption advocates say failed adoptions or dissolutions are rare in cases where the child has been raised from infancy. They said such discord seems to occur more often with youths adopted at an older age.

But Kathleen Strottman, executive director of the Washington-based Congressional Coalition, on Adoption Institute, said that while there seems to be less trauma in children placed with adoptive parents as infants, emotional and behavioral issues can surface long after adoption.

Strottman said she was concerned about the wellbeing of the Ohio child, but she also worried that the threat of criminal prosecution could discourage adoptive parents from seeking help.

"I'm hoping that ultimately there was a good cause for this prosecution," she said. "What everyone wants is a child protection system that first and always stays focused on the needs of the child."

Photos

Cleveland and Lisa Cox, talk to their attorney, as they turn themselves in to the Butler County Jail in Hamilton, Ohio, Friday, November 15, 2013.
AP Photo: Ty Greenlees, The Dayton Daily News

Jamal Byers, left center, shakes hands with Judge James Cissell, right, after Jamal and Tyshawn Byers, right center, were adopted by the Rev. Edward Byers, left, and his wife Darnette Byers, Friday, November 22, 2013, in Cincinnati.
AP Photo: Al Behrman

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Thank you for your sharing your personal experience, adhOLapbNwaST!

I cannot imagine